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From: Steve Longerbeam <slongerbeam@gmail.com>
To: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, shawnguo@kernel.org,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, fabio.estevam@nxp.com,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, mchehab@kernel.org, nick@shmanahar.org,
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	minghsiu.tsai@mediatek.com, tiffany.lin@mediatek.com,
	jean-christophe.trotin@st.com, horms+renesas@verge.net.au,
	niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se, robert.jarzmik@free.fr,
	songjun.wu@microchip.com, andrew-ct.chen@mediatek.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	Steve Longerbeam <steve_longerbeam@mentor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:40:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3fb68686-9447-2d8a-e2d2-005e4138cd43@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1484929911.2897.70.camel@pengutronix.de>

Hi Hans, Philipp,


On 01/20/2017 08:31 AM, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Fri, 2017-01-20 at 14:52 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> Hi Steve, Philipp,
>>
>> On 01/07/2017 03:11 AM, Steve Longerbeam wrote:
>>> In version 3:
>>>
>>> Changes suggested by Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>:
>>>
>>>    - prepended FIM node properties with vendor prefix "fsl,".
>>>
>>>    - make mipi csi-2 receiver compatible string SoC specific:
>>>      "fsl,imx6-mipi-csi2" instead of "fsl,imx-mipi-csi2".
>>>
>>>    - redundant "_clk" removed from mipi csi-2 receiver clock-names property.
>>>
>>>    - removed board-specific info from the media driver binding doc. These
>>>      were all related to sensor bindings, which already are (adv7180)
>>>      or will be (ov564x) covered in separate binding docs. All reference
>>>      board info not related to DT bindings has been moved to
>>>      Documentation/media/v4l-drivers/imx.rst.
>>>
>>>    - removed "_mipi" from the OV5640 compatible string.
>>>
>>> Changes suggested by Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy@mentor.com>:
>>>
>>>    Mostly cosmetic/non-functional changes which I won't list here, except
>>>    for the following:
>>>
>>>    - spin_lock_irqsave() changed to spin_lock() in a couple interrupt handlers.
>>>
>>>    - fixed some unnecessary of_node_put()'s in for_each_child_of_node() loops.
>>>
>>>    - check/handle return code from required reg property of CSI port nodes.
>>>
>>>    - check/handle return code from clk_prepare_enable().
>>>
>>> Changes suggested by Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>    - switch to VGEN3 Analog Vdd supply assuming rev. C SabreSD boards.
>>>
>>>    - finally got around to passing valid IOMUX pin config values to the
>>>      pin groups.
>>>
>>> Other changes:
>>>
>>>    - removed the FIM properties that overrided the v4l2 FIM control defaults
>>>      values. This was left-over from a requirement of a customer and is not
>>>      necessary here.
>>>
>>>    - The FIM must be explicitly enabled in the fim child node under the CSI
>>>      port nodes, using the status property. If not enabled, FIM v4l2 controls
>>>      will not appear in the video capture driver.
>>>
>>>    - brought in additional media types patch from Philipp Zabel. Use new
>>>      MEDIA_ENT_F_VID_IF_BRIDGE in mipi csi-2 receiver subdev.
>>>
>>>    - brought in latest platform generic video multiplexer subdevice driver
>>>      from Philipp Zabel (squashed with patch that uses new MEDIA_ENT_F_MUX).
>>>
>>>    - removed imx-media-of.h, moved those prototypes into imx-media.h.
>> Based on the discussion on the mailinglist it seems everyone agrees that this
>> is the preferred driver, correct?
> No. I have some major reservations against the custom mem2mem framework
> embedded in Steve's driver.
> I think it is a misuse of the media entity links (which should describe
> hardware connections) for something that should be done at the vb2 level
> (letting one device's capture EOF interrupt trigger the next device's
> m2m device_run without going through userspace).
> Steve and I disagree on that point, so we'd appreciate if we could get
> some more eyes on the above issue.

This needs some background first, so let me first describe one example
pipeline in this driver.

There is a VDIC entity in the i.MX IPU that performs de-interlacing with
hardware filters for motion compensation. Some of the motion compensation
modes ("low" and "medium" motion) require that the VDIC receive video
frame fields from memory buffers (dedicated dma channels in the
IPU are used to transfer those buffers into the VDIC).

So one option to support those modes would be to pass the raw buffers
from a camera sensor up to userspace to a capture device, and then pass
them back to the VDIC for de-interlacing using a mem2mem device.

Philipp and I are both in agreement that, since userland is not interested
in the intermediate interlaced buffers in this case, but only the final
result (motion compensated, de-interlaced frames), it is more efficient
to provide a media link that allows passing those intermediate frames
directly from a camera source pad to VDIC sink pad, without having
to route them through userspace.

So in order to support that, I've implemented a simple FIFO dma buffer
queue in the driver to allow passing video buffers directly from a source
to a sink. It is modeled loosely off the vb2 state machine and API, but
simpler (for instance it only allows contiguous, cache-coherent buffers).

This is where Philipp has an argument, that this should be done with a
new API in videobuf2.

And I'm actually in total agreement with that. I definitely agree that there
should be a mechanism in the media framework that allows passing video
buffers from a source pad to a sink pad using a software queue, with no
involvement from userland.

My only disagreement is when this should be implemented. I think it is
fine to keep my custom implementation of this in the driver for now. Once
an extension of vb2 is ready to support this feature, it would be fairly
straightforward to strip out my custom implementation and go with the
new API.

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-20 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-07  2:11 [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] [media] dt-bindings: Add bindings for i.MX media driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:55   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 19:03     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:09       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:13         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add compatible, clocks, irqs to MIPI CSI-2 node Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:57   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 22:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add mipi_ipu1/2 multiplexers, mipi_csi, and their connections Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: add media device Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sabrelite: remove erratum ERR006687 workaround Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:59   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabrelite: add OV5642 and OV5640 camera sensors Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:55       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:15         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:17         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-30 22:28   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-30 22:51   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-05 15:24     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-05 15:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabresd: " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: create i2cmux for i2c3 Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add reset-gpios property for max7310_b Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add pinctrl for gpt input capture Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-12 19:37   ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-12 23:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add the ADV7180 video decoder Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] add mux and video interface bridge entity functions Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 13:56   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-05 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 10:27     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] platform: add video-multiplexer subdevice driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-10  5:35   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-20 14:03   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 12:02     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-25  2:07       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:48         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06  9:50           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 23:10               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 10:26                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 10:41                   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-07 14:11                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 13:36                   ` Benoit Parrot
2017-02-07 20:50                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-07 23:04                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-24 12:44   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-01-26  1:22     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 20:46   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-08  9:47     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 10:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] UAPI: Add media UAPI Kbuild file Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] media: Add userspace header file for i.MX Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:05   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:13     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:50       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] media: Add i.MX media core driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 15:20   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-14 22:46     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 13:47       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23  2:31         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-23 11:13           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-24  1:38             ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24  1:45               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:37                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 15:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <2b1d2418-1ad4-6373-cb07-c3aeab48187f@gmail.com>
2017-01-19  1:44       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:39         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:50   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:54     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] media: imx: Add CSI subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 15:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 21:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 10:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  0:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 15:51   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 16:48     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:40       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 16:18   ` [PATCH] media: imx: csi: fix crop rectangle reset in sink set_fmt Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] media: imx: Add SMFC subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 18:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 18:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] media: imx: Add IC subdev drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25  2:39     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] media: imx: Add Camera Interface subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:38   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24  2:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 13:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 18:21       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 20:33         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 21:55           ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:04             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 22:33               ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:36               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 23:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:41                   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 Receiver " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:01   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:02       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  1:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:31   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:11     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 23:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 11:50   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 23:23     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-08 23:42       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-09 23:49         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-09 23:51           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-13  9:20             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-13 23:20               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-14 16:59                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-09  9:43       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 OV5640 sensor " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:48   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25 19:10     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 23:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  3:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 10:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-12 22:53     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] media: imx: Add Parallel OV5642 " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] ARM: imx_v6_v7_defconfig: Enable staging video4linux drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-11 23:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Tim Harvey
2017-01-12  3:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 13:52 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-20 16:31   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-20 18:40     ` Steve Longerbeam [this message]
2017-01-20 20:39       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-23 11:00         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 11:08           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 11:28             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 23:08           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:27             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-28 19:27               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 13:06               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 10:09                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 13:14                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:35                     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:04                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  1:06   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:06     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  1:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 10:21     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:43       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:23         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:54           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:54 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:25   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 15:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:26   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:30     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:11       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 10:42         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:19       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-03 14:41         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-03 17:56           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  2:27   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  9:33     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-02 17:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 17:31   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 17:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 18:26     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 18:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 19:12         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:29           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-03 18:49             ` Steve Longerbeam

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