From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A64C04EB8 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A741820863 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:10:34 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org A741820863 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=physik.fu-berlin.de Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726781AbeLAHU6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 02:20:58 -0500 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:52151 "EHLO outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725790AbeLAHU6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 02:20:58 -0500 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (envelope-from ) id <1gSp6l-002NEG-NR>; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:09:51 +0100 Received: from ip5b4034e1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([91.64.52.225] helo=[192.168.178.52]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-SHA:128) (envelope-from ) id <1gSp6l-003EAj-EI>; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:09:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 To: Kees Cook , Jarkko Sakkinen Cc: LKML , Amir Goldstein , Andrew Morton , Andy Shevchenko , Daniel Axtens , "David S. Miller" , Dominik Brodowski , Maling list - DRI developers , Eric Dumazet , federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it, Geert Uytterhoeven , Helge Deller , Jonathan Corbet , Joshua Kinard , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, Linux Media Mailing List , Linux MIPS Mailing List , Linux mtd , linux-parisc , Linux PM list , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, matthias.bgg@gmail.com, Network Development , nouveau , Paolo Abeni , Paul Burton , Petr Mladek , Rob Herring , sean.wang@mediatek.com, Sergey Senozhatsky , shannon.nelson@oracle.com, Stefano Brivio , Steven Rostedt , "Tobin C. Harding" , makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp, Willem de Bruijn , Yonghong Song , yanjun.zhu@oracle.com References: <20181130192737.15053-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de; keydata= xsFNBE3JE9wBEADMrYGNfz3oz6XLw9XcWvuIxIlPWoTyw9BxTicfGAv0d87wngs9U+d52t/R EggPePf34gb7/k8FBY1IgyxnZEB5NxUb1WtW0M3GUxpPx6gBZqOm7SK1ZW3oSORw+T7Aezl3 Zq4Nr4Nptqx7fnLpXfRDs5iYO/GX8WuL8fkGS/gIXtxKewd0LkTlb6jq9KKq8qn8/BN5YEKq JlM7jsENyA5PIe2npN3MjEg6p+qFrmrzJRuFjjdf5vvGfzskrXCAKGlNjMMA4TgZvugOFmBI /iSyV0IOaj0uKhes0ZNX+lQFrOB4j6I5fTBy7L/T3W/pCWo3wVkknNYa8TDYT73oIZ7Aimv+ k7OzRfnxsSOAZT8Re1Yt8mvzr6FHVFjr/VdyTtO5JgQZ6LEmvo4Ro+2ByBmCHORCQ0NJhD1U 3avjGfvfslG999W0WEZLTeaGkBAN1yG/1bgGAytQQkD9NsVXqBy7S3LVv9bB844ysW5Aj1nv tgIz14E2WL8rbpfjJMXi7B5ha6Lxf3rFOgxpr6ZoEn+bGG4hmrO+/ReA4SerfMqwSTnjZsZv xMJsx2B9c8DaZE8GsA4I6lsihbJmXhw8i7Cta8Dx418wtEbXhL6m/UEk60O7QD1VBgGqDMnJ DFSlvKa9D+tZde/kHSNmQmLLzxtDbNgBgmR0jUlmxirijnm8bwARAQABzVRKb2huIFBhdWwg QWRyaWFuIEdsYXViaXR6IChGcmVpZSBVbml2ZXJzaXRhZXQgQmVybGluKSA8Z2xhdWJpdHpA cGh5c2lrLmZ1LWJlcmxpbi5kZT7CwZEEEwEIADsCGwMFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgIDAQACHgEC F4AWIQRi/4p1hOApVpVGAAZ0Jjs39bX5EwUCWhQoUgIZAQAKCRB0Jjs39bX5Ez/ID/98r9c4 WUSgOHVPSMVcOVziMOi+zPWfF1OhOXW+atpTM4LSSp66196xOlDFHOdNNmO6kxckXAX9ptvp Bc0mRxa7OrC168fKzqR7P75eTsJnVaOu+uI/vvgsbUIosYdkkekCxDAbYCUwmzNotIspnFbx iSPMNrpw7Ud/yQkS9TDYeXnrZDhBp7p5+naWCD/yMvh7yVCA4Ea8+xDVoX+kjv6EHJrwVupO pMa39cGs2rKYZbWTazcflKH+bXG3FHBrwh9XRjA6A1CTeC/zTVNgGF6wvw/qT2x9tS7WeeZ1 jvBCJub2cb07qIfuvxXiGcYGr+W4z9GuLCiWsMmoff/Gmo1aeMZDRYKLAZLGlEr6zkYh1Abt iz0YLqIYVbZAnf8dCjmYhuwPq77IeqSjqUqI2Cb0oOOlwRKVWDlqAeo0Bh8DrvZvBAojJf4H nQZ/pSz0yaRed/0FAmkVfV+1yR6BtRXhkRF6NCmguSITC96IzE26C6n5DBb43MR7Ga/mof4M UufnKADNG4qz57CBwENHyx6ftWJeWZNdRZq10o0NXuCJZf/iulHCWS/hFOM5ygfONq1Vsj2Z DSWvVpSLj+Ufd2QnmsnrCr1ZGcl72OC24AmqFWJY+IyReHWpuABEVZVeVDQooJ0K4yqucmrF R7HyH7oZGgR0CgYHCI+9yhrXHrQpyM7BTQRNyRQuARAArCaWhVbMXw9iHmMH0BN/TuSmeKtV h/+QOT5C5Uw+XJ3A+OHr9rB+SpndJEcDIhv70gLrpEuloXhZI9VYazfTv6lrkCZObXq/NgDQ Mnu+9E/E/PE9irqnZZOMWpurQRh41MibRii0iSr+AH2IhRL6CN2egZID6f93Cdu7US53ZqIx bXoguqGB2CK115bcnsswMW9YiVegFA5J9dAMsCI9/6M8li+CSYICi9gq0LdpODdsVfaxmo4+ xYFdXoDN33b8Yyzhbh/I5gtVIRpfL+Yjfk8xAsfz78wzifSDckSB3NGPAXvs6HxKc50bvf+P 6t2tLpmB/KrpozlZazq16iktY97QulyEY9JWCiEgDs6EKb4wTx+lUe4yS9eo95cBV+YlL+BX kJSAMyxgSOy35BeBaeUSIrYqfHpbNn6/nidwDhg/nxyJs8mPlBvHiCLwotje2AhtYndDEhGQ KEtEaMQEhDi9MsCGHe+00QegCv3FRveHwzGphY1YlRItLjF4TcFz1SsHn30e7uLTDe/pUMZU Kd1xU73WWr0NlWG1g49ITyaBpwdv/cs/RQ5laYYeivnag81TcPCDbTm7zXiwo53aLQOZj4u3 gSQvAUhgYTQUstMdkOMOn0PSIpyVAq3zrEFEYf7bNSTcdGrgwCuCBe4DgI3Vu4LOoAeI428t 2dj1K1EAEQEAAcLBXwQYAQgACQUCTckULgIbDAAKCRB0Jjs39bX5E683EAC1huywL4BlxTj7 FTm7FiKd5/KEH5/oaxLQN26mn8yRkP/L3xwiqXxdd0hnrPyUe8mUOrSg7KLMul+pSRxPgaHA xt1I1hQZ30cJ1j/SkDIV2ImSf75Yzz5v72fPiYLq9+H3qKZwrgof9yM/s0bfsSX/GWyFatvo Koo+TgrE0rmtQw82vv7/cbDAYceQm1bRB8Nr8agPyGXYcjohAj7NJcra4hnu1wUw3yD05p/B Rntv7NvPWV3Oo7DKCWIS4RpEd6I6E+tN3GCePqROeK1nDv+FJWLkyvwLigfNaCLro6/292YK VMdBISNYN4s6IGPrXGGvoDwo9RVo6kBhlYEfg6+2eaPCwq40IVfKbYNwLLB2MR2ssL4yzmDo OR3rQFDPj+QcDvH4/0gCQ+qRpYATIegS8zU5xQ8nPL8lba9YNejaOMzw8RB80g+2oPOJ3Wzx oMsmw8taUmd9TIw/bJ2VO1HniiJUGUXCqoeg8homvBOQ0PmWAWIwjC6nf6CIuIM4Egu2I5Kl jEF9ImTPcYZpw5vhdyPwBdXW2lSjV3EAqknWujRgcsm84nycuJnImwJptR481EWmtuH6ysj5 YhRVGbQPfdsjVUQfZdRdkEv4CZ90pdscBi1nRqcqANtzC+WQFwekDzk2lGqNRDg56s+q0KtY scOkTAZQGVpD/8AaLH4v1w== Message-ID: <40926843-4983-fc6f-4800-df105f9595ea@physik.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:09:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 91.64.52.225 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/30/18 8:40 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > Better yet, since it's only 17 files, how about doing context-specific > changes? "This API is terrible", "Hateful interface", "Don't touch my > freakin' code", "What in the world were they thinking?" etc? Or just leave it as is because we're all grown up and don't freak out when a piece of text contains the word "fuck". I still don't understand why people think that the word "fuck" is what would keep certain groups from contributing to the Linux kernel. In all seriousness, it doesn't. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913