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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] mm/hmm: add helpers for driver to safely take the mmap_sem
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:40:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41888fd2-6154-4f85-7949-7a59c434d047@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190220221933.GB29398@redhat.com>

On 2/20/19 2:19 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 01:59:13PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 1/29/19 8:54 AM, jglisse@redhat.com wrote:
>>> From: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> The device driver context which holds reference to mirror and thus to
>>> core hmm struct might outlive the mm against which it was created. To
>>> avoid every driver to check for that case provide an helper that check
>>> if mm is still alive and take the mmap_sem in read mode if so. If the
>>> mm have been destroy (mmu_notifier release call back did happen) then
>>> we return -EINVAL so that calling code knows that it is trying to do
>>> something against a mm that is no longer valid.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>>> Cc: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
>>> Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
>>> ---
>>>    include/linux/hmm.h | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>    1 file changed, 47 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/hmm.h b/include/linux/hmm.h
>>> index b3850297352f..4a1454e3efba 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/hmm.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/hmm.h
>>> @@ -438,6 +438,50 @@ struct hmm_mirror {
>>>    int hmm_mirror_register(struct hmm_mirror *mirror, struct mm_struct *mm);
>>>    void hmm_mirror_unregister(struct hmm_mirror *mirror);
>>> +/*
>>> + * hmm_mirror_mm_down_read() - lock the mmap_sem in read mode
>>> + * @mirror: the HMM mm mirror for which we want to lock the mmap_sem
>>> + * Returns: -EINVAL if the mm is dead, 0 otherwise (lock taken).
>>> + *
>>> + * The device driver context which holds reference to mirror and thus to core
>>> + * hmm struct might outlive the mm against which it was created. To avoid every
>>> + * driver to check for that case provide an helper that check if mm is still
>>> + * alive and take the mmap_sem in read mode if so. If the mm have been destroy
>>> + * (mmu_notifier release call back did happen) then we return -EINVAL so that
>>> + * calling code knows that it is trying to do something against a mm that is
>>> + * no longer valid.
>>> + */
>>
>> Hi Jerome,
>>
>> Are you thinking that, throughout the HMM API, there is a problem that
>> the mm may have gone away, and so driver code needs to be littered with
>> checks to ensure that mm is non-NULL? If so, why doesn't HMM take a
>> reference on mm->count?
>>
>> This solution here cannot work. I think you'd need refcounting in order
>> to avoid this kind of problem. Just doing a check will always be open to
>> races (see below).
>>
>>
>>> +static inline int hmm_mirror_mm_down_read(struct hmm_mirror *mirror)
>>> +{
>>> +	struct mm_struct *mm;
>>> +
>>> +	/* Sanity check ... */
>>> +	if (!mirror || !mirror->hmm)
>>> +		return -EINVAL;
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Before trying to take the mmap_sem make sure the mm is still
>>> +	 * alive as device driver context might outlive the mm lifetime.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * FIXME: should we also check for mm that outlive its owning
>>> +	 * task ?
>>> +	 */
>>> +	mm = READ_ONCE(mirror->hmm->mm);
>>> +	if (mirror->hmm->dead || !mm)
>>> +		return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>
>> Nothing really prevents mirror->hmm->mm from changing to NULL right here.
> 
> This is really just to catch driver mistake, if driver does not call
> hmm_mirror_unregister() then the !mm will never be true ie the
> mirror->hmm->mm can not go NULL until the last reference to hmm_mirror
> is gone.

In that case, then this again seems unnecessary, and in fact undesirable.
If the driver code has a bug, then let's let the backtrace from a NULL
dereference just happen, loud and clear.

This patch, at best, hides bugs. And it adds code that should simply be
unnecessary, so I don't like it. :)  Let's make it go away.

> 
>>
>>> +	down_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
>>> +	return 0;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>
>> ...maybe better to just drop this patch from the series, until we see a
>> pattern of uses in the calling code.
> 
> It use by nouveau now.

Maybe you'd have to remove that use case in a couple steps, depending on the
order that patches are going in.


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-20 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-29 16:54 [PATCH 00/10] HMM updates for 5.1 jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/hmm: use reference counting for HMM struct jglisse
2019-02-20 23:47   ` John Hubbard
2019-02-20 23:59     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21  0:06       ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21  0:15         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21  0:32           ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21  0:37             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21  0:42               ` John Hubbard
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm/hmm: do not erase snapshot when a range is invalidated jglisse
2019-02-20 23:58   ` John Hubbard
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_get_pfns() to hmm_range_snapshot() jglisse
2019-02-21  0:25   ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21  0:28     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_fault() to hmm_range_fault() jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm/hmm: improve driver API to work and wait over a range jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm/hmm: add default fault flags to avoid the need to pre-fill pfns arrays jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm/hmm: add an helper function that fault pages and map them to a device jglisse
2019-03-18 20:21   ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 20:41     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 21:30       ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 22:15         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19  3:29           ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 13:30             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19  8:44               ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-19 17:10                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 14:10                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/hmm: support hugetlbfs (snap shoting, faulting and DMA mapping) jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/hmm: allow to mirror vma of a file on a DAX backed filesystem jglisse
2019-01-29 18:41   ` Dan Williams
2019-01-29 19:31     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:51       ` Dan Williams
2019-01-29 21:21         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30  2:32           ` Dan Williams
2019-01-30  3:03             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:25               ` Dan Williams
2019-01-30 18:36                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31  3:28                   ` Dan Williams
2019-01-31  4:16                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31  5:44                       ` Dan Williams
2019-03-05 22:16                         ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06  4:20                           ` Dan Williams
2019-03-06 15:51                             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 15:57                               ` Dan Williams
2019-03-06 16:03                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 16:06                                   ` Dan Williams
2019-03-07 17:46                             ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07 18:56                               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12  3:13                                 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 15:25                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12 16:06                                     ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 19:06                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12 19:30                                         ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 20:34                                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-13  1:06                                             ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 21:52                                           ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13  0:10                                             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13  0:46                                               ` Dan Williams
2019-03-13  1:00                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13 16:06                                               ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13 18:39                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 15:49                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 22:18                             ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07  0:36                               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm/hmm: add helpers for driver to safely take the mmap_sem jglisse
2019-02-20 21:59   ` John Hubbard
2019-02-20 22:19     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-20 22:40       ` John Hubbard [this message]
2019-02-20 23:09         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-20 23:17 ` [PATCH 00/10] HMM updates for 5.1 John Hubbard
2019-02-20 23:36   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-22 23:31 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-03-13  1:27 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13 16:10   ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13 18:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-03-13 18:33     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 17:00     ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-03-18 17:04     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 18:30       ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 18:54         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 19:18           ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 19:28             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 19:36               ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 16:40       ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-19 16:58         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 17:12           ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-19 17:18             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 17:33               ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 17:45                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 18:42                   ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 19:05                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 19:13                       ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 14:18                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-19 22:24                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 19:18                         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 20:25                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 21:51             ` Stephen Rothwell
2019-03-19 18:51           ` Deucher, Alexander

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