From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263016AbUKTBPw (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:15:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263074AbUKTBIl (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:08:41 -0500 Received: from smtp209.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.117]:7049 "HELO smtp209.mail.sc5.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263067AbUKTBH5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:07:57 -0500 Message-ID: <419E98E7.1080402@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:07:51 +1100 From: Nick Piggin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040820 Debian/1.7.2-4 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Christoph Lameter , akpm@osdl.org, Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Hugh Dickins , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: page fault scalability patch V11 [0/7]: overview References: <419D581F.2080302@yahoo.com.au> <419D5E09.20805@yahoo.com.au> <1100848068.25520.49.camel@gaston> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Christoph Lameter wrote: > >>Note that I have posted two other approaches of dealing with the rss problem: > > > You could also make "rss" be a _signed_ integer per-thread. > > When unmapping a page, you decrement one of the threads that shares the mm > (doesn't matter which - which is why the per-thread rss may go negative), > and when mapping a page you increment it. > > Then, anybody who actually wants a global rss can just iterate over > threads and add it all up. If you do it under the mmap_sem, it's stable, > and if you do it outside the mmap_sem it's imprecise but stable in the > long term (ie errors never _accumulate_, like the non-atomic case will > do). > > Does anybody care enough? Maybe, maybe not. It certainly sounds a hell of > a lot better than the periodic scan. > I think this sounds like it might be a good idea. I prefer it to having the unbounded error of sloppy rss (as improbable as it may be in practice). The per thread rss may wrap (maybe not 64-bit counters), but even so, the summation over all threads should still end up being correct I think.