From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261983AbUK3GyS (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:54:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261984AbUK3GyS (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:54:18 -0500 Received: from 209-128-68-124.bayarea.net ([209.128.68.124]:32197 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261983AbUK3GyM (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <41AC1885.1040301@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:51:49 +0000 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: jt@hpl.hp.com, Linux kernel mailing list , David Howells , Jeff Garzik , Mariusz Mazur Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting kernel headers and deprecating __KERNEL__ References: <20041130014328.GA14337@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > >> So, which kernel ABI should be present on my system in >>/usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm ? Should I use the ABI from >>2.6.X, 2.4.X or 2.2.X ? > > > I have always felt (pretty strongly) that the /usr/include/xxx contents > should not be kernel-dependent, but be linked to your glibc version. > That's why the symlink from /usr/include/xxx to /usr/src/linux/include/ > has been deprecated for the last, oh about ten years now.. > > Yes, there are some _very_ specific things which might care about system > calls or ioctl's that have been added later, but let's face it, we don't > actually do that very often. The kernel may change at a rapid pace, but > user interfaces don't, and user interfaces that would bypass the C library > change even less frequently. > More to the point, though, is that they should be supersets of each other, which means you should be able to upgrade them to the latest version. Most of the ABI changes, after all, are new structures needed for various things. -hpa