From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262563AbVAETOX (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:14:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262565AbVAETOV (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:14:21 -0500 Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.56]:47278 "EHLO zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262563AbVAETOK (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: <41DC3B3A.3060709@nortelnetworks.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:08:42 -0600 X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Chris Friesen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040115 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Lee Irwin III CC: Bill Davidsen , Willy Tarreau , Thomas Graf , "Theodore Ts'o" , Adrian Bunk , Diego Calleja , aebr@win.tue.nl, solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 References: <20050105000942.GA7961@holomorphy.com> <41DC324F.5040009@tmr.com> <20050105185637.GE7961@holomorphy.com> In-Reply-To: <20050105185637.GE7961@holomorphy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org William Lee Irwin III wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:30:39PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >>You fooled me, most of what I hear from developers sounds like "it's >>working fine" to me. Linus made it this way, he wants it this way, and >>if Alan Cox saying it isn't working well doesn't convince him, nothing >>users say is going to matter. > > > He did? Message-Id? What he said was, "After 2.6.9-ac its clear that the long 2.6.9 process worked very badly. While 2.6.10 is looking much better its long period meant the allegedly "official" base kernel was a complete pile of insecure donkey turd for months. That doesn't hurt most vendor users but it does hurt those trying to do stuff on the base kernels very badly." Chris