From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261164AbVBFPDr (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:03:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261166AbVBFPDr (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:03:47 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:32730 "EHLO parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261164AbVBFPDp (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: <420631BF.7060407@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arjan van de Ven CC: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , Martins Krikis , marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29 References: <87651hdoiv.fsf@yahoo.com> <420582C6.7060407@pobox.com> <1107682076.22680.58.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <58cb370e050206044513eb7f89@mail.gmail.com> <42062BFE.7070907@pobox.com> <1107701373.22680.115.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: <1107701373.22680.115.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Arjan van de Ven wrote: >>I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise >>user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. > > > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support > patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and > new ... where is the line? > > for me a deep maintenance mode is about keeping existing stuff working; > all new hw support and derivative hardware support (such as this) can be > pointed at the new stable series... which has been out for quite some > time now.. Red herring. 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component. We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, not new hardware. We are also talking about inability to access data on hardware supported by 2.4.x, not something that can easily be ignored or papered over with a compatibility mode. Jeff