From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262246AbVBVIsW (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:48:22 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262249AbVBVIsW (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:48:22 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]:35973 "EHLO rwcrmhc12.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262246AbVBVIsM (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <421AF1C6.2030902@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:48:06 -0800 From: Chuck Harding User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Kernel Discussion List Subject: Re: E-cards for You References: <07754071.20040720063440@e-cards.com> <42150AB0.3070503@colannino.org> <200502171652.27868.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20050217225246.GH23467@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <20050217225246.GH23467@freenet.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010503090304030801090708" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010503090304030801090708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michelle Konzack wrote: >Sorry ? > >I remember, that for some month I have gotten minimum 15 SPAMs per >day from this List. Siche two (???) month it is very silent here.. > > > I am subscribed to several of the vger.kernel.org lists and the *same* spam gets dumped on each of them. I have *no* problem whatsoever having the lists be open to posting so that anyone having a problem with getting the kernel or other parts of Linux to work for them will be able to access the collective knowlege of the community. But, my desktop machine is capable of identifying the garbage that gets dumped on the lists without much problem. I am using a triple layered approach - SpamAssassin, SpamBayes, and SpamBouncer, to filter all of my incoming mail. This approach works very well in that it has a miniscule false-positive rate, yet catches all of the 419, phish, E-cards, etc, etc, etc, that get sent to the list. I am only an end-user in that I do not control the mailservers that receive the spams from vger.kernel.org but my setup can certainly identify without fail the junk sent through the lists. So my question is really, if my puny little end-user setup can determine which messages sent to /whatever-list@/vger.kernel.org are spam, why can't the admins at vger.kernel.org set up the same kind of filtering so that the junk never even gets into the outbound majordomo queue? I've set up majordomo and I know how the internals work and how messages get run through the architecture. I know it's possible to filter the incoming messages *to* majordomo. The spam is coming through majordomo through the list. If you expand your MUA's view of the message so that you see all of the headers in the message, you will see that the spammage goes through the same processing as any other legitimate message. Your two-address scheme has other functionality in play to explain the difference in the number of spam message are received. I am only talking about messages processed through majordomo@vger.kenel.org >I think, there was an Admin which had changed the SPAM-Filter setings. > >But one thing: > >I an subscribed with two E-Mails to this list, the first one is >secret and get all the mails from the List... SPAM is very rarely. > >The second E-Mail is, which I use to post here... and on which I >get per day between 300 and 6000 SPAMs. > >I run my own spamassassin on my FileServer for all incoming Messges >and see only 5-20 messages coming through my filters. > >Same for the 56 Debian mailinglist where I am subscribed. > >I do not know, what happen if kernel.org and debian.org deactivate >the filters... maybe the Internet connection will not sufficiant to >distribute the SPAM. > > >Greetings >Michelle > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Charles D. (Chuck) Harding =- -= Livermore, CA USA K6CKT DOD#1408 http://www.harding-family.org =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Manual Writer's Creed: Garbage in, gospel out. --------------010503090304030801090708 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Signature.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Signature.txt" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Charles D. (Chuck) Harding =- -= Livermore, CA USA K6CKT DOD#1408 http://www.harding-family.org =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Manual Writer's Creed: Garbage in, gospel out. --------------010503090304030801090708--