From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: compaction: avoid fast_isolate_around() to set pageblock_skip on reserved pages
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:33:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <424bba1c-d9af-e2a9-0b5a-3a71d525bf30@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X76qJCg0Pa8diO59@redhat.com>
On 25.11.20 20:01, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 01:08:54PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Yeah I guess it would be simpler if zoneid/nid was correct for
>> pfn_valid() pfns within a zone's range, even if they are reserved due
>> not not being really usable memory.
>>
>> I don't think we want to introduce CONFIG_HOLES_IN_ZONE to x86. If the
>> chosen solution is to make this to a real hole, the hole should be
>> extended to MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES aligned boundaries.
>
> The way pfn_valid works it's not possible to render all non-RAM pfn as
> !pfn_valid, CONFIG_HOLES_IN_ZONE would not achieve it 100% either. So
Well, we could do it the arm64 way and provide a custom pfn_valid() and
check memblock for RAM - please don't! :D
> I don't think we can rely on that to eliminate all non-RAM reserved
> pages from the mem_map and avoid having to initialize them in the
> first place. Some could remain as in this case since in the same
> pageblock there's non-RAM followed by RAM and all pfn are valid.
>
>> In any case, compaction code can't fix this with better range checks.
>
> David's correct that it can, by adding enough PageReserved (I'm
> running all systems reproducing this with plenty of PageReserved
> checks in all places to work around it until we do a proper fix).
>
> My problem with that is that 1) it's simply non enforceable at runtime
> that there is not missing PageReserved check and 2) what benefit it
> would provide to leave a wrong zoneid in reserved pages and having to
> add extra PageReserved checks?
See my other mail. If we have a clean way to set *any* memmap (non-RAM,
memory holes at any place) to a proper nid/zid, then we won't need
reserved checks. I raised some cases that need more thought than a
simple "hole in zone".
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-25 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-23 21:25 compaction: VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!zone_spans_pfn(page_zone(page), pfn)) Qian Cai
2020-04-24 3:43 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-24 13:45 ` Qian Cai
2020-05-05 12:43 ` Baoquan He
2020-05-05 13:20 ` Qian Cai
2020-05-11 1:21 ` Baoquan He
2020-04-26 14:41 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-04-27 13:45 ` Qian Cai
2020-11-21 19:45 ` [PATCH 0/1] VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!zone_spans_pfn) in set_pfnblock_flags_mask Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-21 19:45 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: compaction: avoid fast_isolate_around() to set pageblock_skip on reserved pages Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-21 19:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-23 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-23 13:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-24 13:32 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-24 20:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 10:30 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-25 17:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2020-12-06 2:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-06 23:47 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-25 5:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 6:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 8:51 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-25 10:39 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-25 11:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 11:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 18:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 13:33 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-25 13:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 18:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 19:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 20:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 21:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 21:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-25 21:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 9:36 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-26 10:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-26 17:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-29 12:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-12-02 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-02 17:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-12-03 6:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-03 10:51 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-12-03 17:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-06 8:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-26 18:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 18:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 19:44 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-26 20:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 21:03 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-26 19:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 12:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-25 13:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-25 14:13 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-25 14:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-26 10:51 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-25 19:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 19:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-25 19:33 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-11-26 3:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-26 10:43 ` Mike Rapoport
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