From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261566AbVGATy0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:54:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261182AbVGATy0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:54:26 -0400 Received: from 69-18-3-179.lisco.net ([69.18.3.179]:59659 "EHLO ninja.slaphack.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263426AbVGATsy (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:48:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42C59E36.6050006@slaphack.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:49:10 -0500 From: David Masover User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050513 Debian/1.7.8-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: dtor_core@ameritech.net, Markus T?rnqvist , Horst von Brand , Alan Cox , Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: backup (was Re: reiser4 plugins) References: <42BB7B32.4010100@slaphack.com> <200506240334.j5O3YowB008100@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <20050627092138.GD11013@nysv.org> <20050627124255.GB6280@thunk.org> <42C018E5.8030805@slaphack.com> <20050627162839.GA22799@thunk.org> <42C06BC6.7090002@slaphack.com> <20050630214950.GA14286@thunk.org> <42C4EACC.7020604@slaphack.com> <20050701141952.GA2719@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20050701141952.GA2719@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Theodore Ts'o wrote: > Rule #3 from http://www.streamload.com/About/Legal_eng.asp?page=id73# > is pretty clear about what applies if you have a trial account (which > seems to be what you have since you say you'll cancel your account if > they charge you anything): > > 3. Do not circumvent Freeloader download restrictions. > Any attempt to circumvent Freeloader trial account restrictions will > result in a permanent banishment from the Streamload community. This > includes (3a) files with an invalid or disguised file format; (3b) > encryption; (3c) steganography and/or (3d) creating multiple > freeloader accounts. > > You can interpret that whatever way you like, but if you're that > cavalier with your data, hey, I'm not sure _I'd_ trust your judgement > about which filesystem to trust. :-) Streamload is one possibility. There are others -- gmail and such. This is just what can be had *for*free*. For that matter, the uploading process doesn't require a user to agree to those terms at all. There's a module in CPAN that allows an upload, and never asks me to agree to any terms, nor does it ask me for an account password. I don't have multiple accounts, I don't *use* the encryption to attempt to circumvent the download restrictions, especially considering that said download restrictions don't even come into play until I need a restore. By the time I do need a restore, I'm willing to pay money, as 100 megs a month is certainly not going to be enough.