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From: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Ian Abbott <abbotti@mev.co.uk>,
	linux-input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] Remove false-positive VLAs when using max()
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:13:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42b4342b-aefc-a16a-0d43-9f9c0d63ba7a@rasmusvillemoes.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwv0VC67cx2W9yrf7qSFKf6ncVRrsVyLGqdmfSBn4yTYw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2018-03-17 19:52, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately my 4.4 test fails quickly:
>>
>> ./include/linux/jiffies.h: In function ‘jiffies_delta_to_clock_t’:
>> ./include/linux/jiffies.h:444: error: first argument to
>> ‘__builtin_choose_expr’ not a constant
> 
> Ok, so it really looks like that same "__builtin_constant_p() doesn't
> return a constant".
> 
> Which is really odd, but there you have it.

Not really. We do rely on builtin_constant_p not being folded too
quickly to a 0/1 answer, so that gcc still generates good code even if
the argument is only known to be constant at a late(r) optimization
stage (through inlining and all). So unlike types_compatible_p, which
can obviously be answered early during parsing, builtin_constant_p is
most of the time a yes/no/maybe/it's complicated thing. Sure, when the
argument is just a literal or perhaps even any kind of ICE, gcc can fold
it to "yes", and I think it does (though the details of when and if gcc
does that can obviously be very version-dependent, which may be some of
what we've seen). But when it's not that obvious, gcc leaves it in the
undetermined state. That's not good enough for builtin_choose_expr,
because even the type of the resulting expression depends on that first
argument, so that really must be resolved early.

So to have some kind of builtin_constant_p control a
builtin_choose_expr, it would need to be a "builtin_ice_p" or
"builtin_obviously_constant_p" that would always be folded to 0/1 as
part of evaluating ICEs.

So I don't think there's any way around creating a separate macro for
use with compile-time constants.

Rasmus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-18 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-16  4:25 [PATCH v5 0/2] Remove false-positive VLAs when using max() Kees Cook
2018-03-16  4:25 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] kernel.h: Introduce const_max_t() for VLA removal Kees Cook
2018-03-16  4:25 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] Remove false-positive VLAs when using max() Kees Cook
2018-03-19 10:45   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-03-16 11:47 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " Florian Weimer
2018-03-16 17:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 17:32     ` Florian Weimer
2018-03-16 17:44     ` David Laight
2018-03-16 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 17:55     ` Al Viro
2018-03-16 18:14       ` Al Viro
2018-03-16 19:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 20:03         ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-16 20:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 20:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-17  0:48             ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-17  1:49             ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-03-16 20:12         ` Al Viro
2018-03-16 20:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 20:18             ` Al Viro
2018-03-17  7:27         ` Kees Cook
2018-03-17 18:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-17 20:07             ` Kees Cook
2018-03-17 22:55               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-20 23:23               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-20 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-21  0:05                   ` Al Viro
2018-03-22 15:01                 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-22 15:13                   ` David Laight
2018-03-22 17:04                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-18 21:13             ` Rasmus Villemoes [this message]
2018-03-18 21:33               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-18 22:59                 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-18 23:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-19  9:43                     ` David Laight
2018-03-19 23:29                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-20  3:10                         ` Arnd Bergmann

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