From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
Cc: Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@linaro.org>,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Energy/power monitoring within the kernel
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:40:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4317776.evLpJapyim@hammer82.arch.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1351013449.9070.5.camel@hornet>
Hi,
On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 06:30:49 PM Pawel Moll wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> More and more of people are getting interested in the subject of power
> (energy) consumption monitoring. We have some external tools like
> "battery simulators", energy probes etc., but some targets can measure
> their power usage on their own.
>
> Traditionally such data should be exposed to the user via hwmon sysfs
> interface, and that's exactly what I did for "my" platform - I have
> a /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon*/device/energy*_input and this was good
> enough to draw pretty graphs in userspace. Everyone was happy...
>
> Now I am getting new requests to do more with this data. In particular
> I'm asked how to add such information to ftrace/perf output.
Why? What is the gain?
Perf events can be triggered at any point in the kernel.
A cpufreq event is triggered when the frequency gets changed.
CPU idle events are triggered when the kernel requests to enter an idle state
or exits one.
When would you trigger a thermal or a power event?
There is the possibility of (critical) thermal limits.
But if I understand this correctly you want this for debugging and
I guess you have everything interesting one can do with temperature
values:
- read the temperature
- draw some nice graphs from the results
Hm, I guess I know what you want to do:
In your temperature/energy graph, you want to have some dots
when relevant HW states (frequency, sleep states, DDR power,...)
changed. Then you are able to see the effects over a timeline.
So you have to bring the existing frequency/idle perf events together
with temperature readings
Cleanest solution could be to enhance the exisiting userspace apps
(pytimechart/perf timechart) and let them add another line
(temperature/energy), but the data would not come from perf, but
from sysfs/hwmon.
Not sure whether this works out with the timechart tools.
Anyway, this sounds like a userspace only problem.
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-24 0:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-23 17:30 [RFC] Energy/power monitoring within the kernel Pawel Moll
2012-10-23 17:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-24 16:00 ` Pawel Moll
2012-10-23 18:49 ` Andy Green
2012-10-24 16:05 ` Pawel Moll
2012-10-23 22:02 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-10-24 16:37 ` Pawel Moll
2012-10-24 20:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-10-24 0:40 ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2012-10-24 16:51 ` Pawel Moll
2012-10-24 0:41 ` Thomas Renninger
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