From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751344AbWAVUjz (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:39:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751346AbWAVUjz (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:39:55 -0500 Received: from elvis.mu.org ([192.203.228.196]:47584 "EHLO elvis.mu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751344AbWAVUjy (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:39:54 -0500 Message-ID: <43D3ED8A.3070606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:39:38 -0800 From: Suleiman Souhlal User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Diego Calleja CC: "Theodore Ts'o" , nigelenki@comcast.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: soft update vs journaling? References: <43D3295E.8040702@comcast.net> <20060122093144.GA7127@thunk.org> <20060122205039.e8842bae.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060122205039.e8842bae.diegocg@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Diego Calleja wrote: > And FreeBSD is implementing journaling for UFS and getting rid of > softupdates [1]. While this not proves that softupdates is "a bad idea", > i think this proves why the added sofupdates complexity doesn't seem > to pay off in the real world. You read the message wrong: We're not getting rid of softupdates. -- Suleiman