From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751128AbWAYTRb (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:17:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751129AbWAYTRb (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:17:31 -0500 Received: from master.soleranetworks.com ([67.137.28.188]:15051 "EHLO master.soleranetworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751128AbWAYTRb (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:17:31 -0500 Message-ID: <43D7B5C4.5040601@wolfmountaingroup.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:30:44 -0700 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeff V. Merkey" Cc: Marc Perkel , Patrick McLean , Stephen Hemminger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GPL V3 and Linux - Dead Copyright Holders References: <43D114A8.4030900@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20060120111103.2ee5b531@dxpl.pdx.osdl.net> <43D13B2A.6020504@cs.ubishops.ca> <43D7C780.6080000@perkel.com> <43D7B20D.7040203@wolfmountaingroup.com> In-Reply-To: <43D7B20D.7040203@wolfmountaingroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> Makes me wonder if something should be done to address the issue of >> dead copyright holders. Not sure what but maybe there should be a >> clause in GPL3 addressing that? > > > > Their heirs would have two years to bring a cause of action if they > object. Proper notice could be served by posting a notice on the > internet at kernel.org > that their code is being redistributed under GPL3. I note that the > general notice in the code states "GPL2 or any later version of the > license". Given this > language, it is highly likely the remaining code can proceed under a > new license without incident since it can be assumed they already > agreed by > having this general notice posted at kernel.org for many years. I > think the point is moot. Legally, there is exposure if their > successors or owners > of their estates bring action. Those outside the US would of course > be subject to the laws of their jurisdiction. An attorney at FSF > needs to review their > code and render an opinion, but I think it will not be a problem. > > Jeff > >> NOTE: Under the Doctrine of Esstopel, if you proceed on this basis and two years pass without their heirs bringing an action of some sort, then under this legal doctrine, the rights to use their code under GPLv3 would in all probability pass consitutional muster. Again, someone needs to run this by an attorney at the FSF and get a formal legal opinion rendered. The Doctrine of Esstopel basically says that if you use something for some period of time, and no one objects, then you obtain certain rights to use it permenantly. Not wanting to disrespect the wishes of the dead, I would attempt to contact the successors of their estates in any event and obtain permission, and if not possible, then proceed. Jeff