From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964848AbWA3SBZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:01:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964856AbWA3SBY (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:523 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964848AbWA3SBY (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:01:24 -0500 Message-ID: <43DE57C4.5010707@opersys.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:15:32 -0500 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Horsten CC: linux-kernel Subject: Re: GPL V3 and Linux - Dead Copyright Holders References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Thomas Horsten wrote: > That would be a dubious circumvention. Remember that the GPLv3 is still a > draft - the wording can (and should probably) be improved to make it clear > that the system as a whole must behave identically if a modified version > of the GPL'ed software is used. As a software license, GPLv3 can dictate the usage rules for software distributed under it, but it can't dictate the usage terms of hardware and software independently developed (ex.: DRM'ed hardware and proprietary user-space applications). No wording could erase that. And what is suggest is not "circumvention", it's just not something GPLv3 could cover. > It's a good place to start putting pressure on the OEM's. If they can > choose between heavy DRM'ed and closed hardware, and pay millions in > license fees, or get the software they need for free in return for > dropping the restrictions, some are bound to choose the free route. This > is where the fight begins. DRM is a symptom, not the root problem. The root problem is that someone somewhere has been convinced that they are loosing money because of "pirates". Sure, middle-men (record labels) have crafted the reality to fit their needs. But the latter would not be able to operate would the former not exist. There's only one thing "artists" will dislike more than the fear of not making money: it's actually not making any. So if you want to get rid of DRM, the solution is to not buy any DRM'ed stuff. Every time you buy a region-coded DVD or a "protected" CD you are feeding the DRM cycle. To stop it, just don't buy any of it. Karim -- President / Opersys Inc. Embedded Linux Training and Expertise www.opersys.com / 1.866.677.4546