From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932342AbWBKRGQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:06:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932341AbWBKRGQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:06:16 -0500 Received: from smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.238]:53988 "HELO smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932342AbWBKRGP (ORCPT ); Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:06:15 -0500 Message-ID: <43EE1982.1050201@hackmiester.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:06:10 -0600 From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Reply-To: hackmiester@hackmiester.com Organization: hackmiester.com, Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kyle Moffett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.) References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <20060209233406.GD3389@elf.ucw.cz> <200602101008.32368.nigel@suspend2.net> <200602101337.22078.rjw@sisk.pl> <20060210233507.GC1952@elf.ucw.cz> <70FB74EB-5503-432D-8749-FD5A6807C23C@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <70FB74EB-5503-432D-8749-FD5A6807C23C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Feb 10, 2006, at 18:35, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> Anyway, it means that suspend is still quite a hot topic, and that is >> good. (Linus said that suspend-to-disk is basically for people that >> can't get suspend-to-RAM to work, and after I got suspend-to- RAM to >> work reliably here, I can see his point). > > > I completely agree. My Mac PowerBook has had suspend-to-RAM for a long > time; I shut the lid and about 3 seconds later it's asleep, open it and > 3 seconds later it's awake. Leave it sleeping for a week on a full > charge, come back to find it still asleep. I can even put it to sleep, > remove a drained battery and put in a fresh one (it has a small > internal 2-minute RAM battery), then wake it up and resume work. I'm > curious though, what proportion of laptop hardware actually has support > for suspend-to-RAM? (including hardware for which linux does not yet > have support). I'd say about... 100% of all in use today :-) Really, I've not seen a machine without APM or ACPI in ages... > What percent of that hardware _does_ have Linux support? 85% I'd say. My notebook supports suspend, but not stand by, in Linux. Suspend uses more battery. :-( > > Cheers, > Kyle Moffett > > -- > If you don't believe that a case based on [nothing] could potentially > drag on in court for _years_, then you have no business playing with > the legal system at all. > -- Rob Landley > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > -- --hackmiester Walk a mile in my shoes and you will be a mile away in a new pair of shoes.