From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932408AbWBMPIv (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:08:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932423AbWBMPIu (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:08:50 -0500 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:15779 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932408AbWBMPIt (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:08:49 -0500 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:07:16 +0100 To: tytso@mit.edu, schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de Cc: peter.read@gmail.com, mj@ucw.cz, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <43F0A0A4.nailKUSSSCJAI@burner> References: <43EC8E18.nailISDJTQDBG@burner> <43EC93A2.nailJEB1AMIE6@burner> <20060210141651.GB18707@thunk.org> <43ECA3FC.nailJGC110XNX@burner> <20060210145238.GC18707@thunk.org> <43ECA934.nailJHD2NPUCH@burner> <20060210155711.GA11566@thunk.org> <43F0634C.nailKUS6JSGJH@burner> <20060213121503.GA31745@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20060213121503.GA31745@thunk.org> User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "Theodore Ts'o" wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:45:32AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > If you did try to understand the reason why I did introduce the POSIX > > claim, you would know that if Linux did try to follow the POSIX rule, > > a side effect would be that removable devices need to have a stable > > mapping in the kernel > > It is _not_ a POSIX rule, as I and others have shown. You claimed it > was required by POSIX, but you are quite clearly incorrect. It has > never worked that way with Unix systems, and POSIX was always designed > to codify existing practice. On Unix systems fixed disks would and > did have their devices numbering schemes move around under a number of > conditions. If you believe this, pleace give evidence. I was quoting POSIX documents which prove my claims...... Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily