From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751066AbWGXJJf (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:09:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751080AbWGXJJf (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:09:35 -0400 Received: from thebsh.namesys.com ([212.16.7.65]:44993 "HELO thebsh.namesys.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751066AbWGXJJe (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:09:34 -0400 Message-ID: <44C48043.7010708@namesys.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:09:39 -0600 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Andree CC: Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C26F65.4000103@namesys.com> <44C28A8F.1050408@garzik.org> <20060724084133.GC24299@merlin.emma.line.org> In-Reply-To: <20060724084133.GC24299@merlin.emma.line.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matthias Andree wrote: >The most worrying point was that reiser3 maintenance was given up at the >point where it was just about to transition from usable to mature. > > > Name a bug (not a feature) that has not been fixed by us, and which is not also so deep that it reasonably required waiting for a major release to fix it (for example, bug fixes that require disk format changes belong in v4 not v3 even if a case can be made that they are bug fixes). I mean, god, sometimes I think users are like little children waiting for the pie that is in the oven and who want to take it out now before it finishes cooking so they can eat it, and they are very angry about it, and I should just understand that and not try to reason with it (but also not give them the pie before it finishes cooking either). Someone please tell me I don't understand the users and it all makes more sense than that, please.... No code before its time. No features in stable branches. Wait for it. Stop complaining about how you are abandoned, we are working hard. It's going to be the best pie ever. Wait for it. Hans