From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030299AbWGZAoR (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:44:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030297AbWGZAoQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:44:16 -0400 Received: from 63-162-81-169.lisco.net ([63.162.81.169]:45245 "EHLO grunt.slaphack.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030299AbWGZAoP (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:44:15 -0400 Message-ID: <44C6BADE.4030202@slaphack.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:44:14 -0500 From: David Masover User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Reiser CC: Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C26F65.4000103@namesys.com> <44C28A8F.1050408@garzik.org> <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> In-Reply-To: <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8750CF5B2435204DB7209302" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8750CF5B2435204DB7209302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans Reiser wrote: > to use as his default. Now that we paid the 5 year development price > tag to get everything as plugins, we can now upgrade in littler pieces > than any other FS. Hmm, I need a buzz phrase, its not extreme > programming, maybe "moderate programming". Does that sound exciting to= Hah! No, it doesn't sound exciting. Plugins don't work well either, not as a marketing concept. People have had so many bad experiences with plugins, and they're only ever visible when you have a bad experience. Think about it -- missing plugin (so you have to download it), On the other hand, it works for WordPress. My day job is work on a plugin for WordPress. Not including a link because I feel dirty for having to work with PHP... Fluid programming? If you build a solution from the bottom up with gravel or large rocks, you leave gaps that are hard to fill without ripping off the top layer and redoing it. But if you can do fluid programming, your program just flows around any obstacle, and into every crack / between every space (metaphor for new customer requirements)... --------------enig8750CF5B2435204DB7209302 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRMa63ngHNmZLgCUhAQo71w//QMCtkf9L//RKEaZJ8OUBeJoDViNNQnqg ZXqX4B2fbzYW4XyWHSVBkHr4i8dA+5MAQFLGdfKGWkG1cH0S2MyukOXIlhApgwmk Gt9oLbZNP407X+dB4s7vJLODmCLyA+M0zm9y/M1UfcZ6WMPGWjhrUbJIH1F1k/OV 2pAWy2LXaNVf3XuQ9crT+7d3g+HcAiH0X/2kj3PDvQ4kCT+tXIPFnB+VlXPSZr3y Ne5i+BpRfEZ6PVGNjke33sGE7ESERNvzbaXiw15rWsTDSHzXmLR8HoYkRYm/dGoS jpNrWBTTGW7n0aGeE+w290rPCQhJ7AtpN/EvWn8BhpYv4O+TB2GblIU4Qzy6dVaX oNaIbQPvS+kH3/F86nW+tjGIVV7Egeb4cTXmsJAD1moV5NgVSpJfsfo44QeKQhLI yxDVNWWwNLHTyqFMRCrp8GAXr5IXB4y8YarMuFn1qqVM/n0cDnEXtkJhPgMgOqu+ R4JXHBUju4jPs0ZtWyrZNtX7Xo1wDOkjdKqxBFUiJqjEVHYk4OH5/AFGf1UtooHa cNuQallxHBSHZgKXbB0teWfI4AyKO+SRPoE+udnNJEmbrS7IrnE8Qm2MgVEJ0gAN oQXQMjZK5GQg3Sasz1aG2z6PszWHtz3Jcb9wjShFBDRL+fIyRRYSzUfEEnIV+fvm AoeW6e+hTXg= =zmIa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8750CF5B2435204DB7209302--