From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751949AbWG0TGP (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:06:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751952AbWG0TGP (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:06:15 -0400 Received: from 63-162-81-169.lisco.net ([63.162.81.169]:27567 "EHLO grunt.slaphack.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751949AbWG0TGO (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0400 Message-ID: <44C90EA2.4000902@slaphack.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:06:10 -0500 From: David Masover User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Garzik CC: Pavel Machek , Hans Reiser , Matthias Andree , lkml@lpbproductions.com, Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <44C28A8F.1050408@garzik.org> <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> <200607230212.55293.lkml@lpbproductions.com> <44C44622.9050504@namesys.com> <20060724085455.GD24299@merlin.emma.line.org> <44C4813E.2030907@namesys.com> <20060726131709.GB5270@ucw.cz> <44C8FE41.5040909@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: <44C8FE41.5040909@garzik.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jeff Garzik wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: >> Hi! >> >>>> of the story for me. There's nothing wrong about focusing on newer >>>> code, >>>> but the old code needs to be cared for, too, to fix remaining issues >>>> such as the "can only have N files with the same hash value". >>> Requires a disk format change, in a filesystem without plugins, to >>> fix it. > A filesystem WITH plugins must still handle the standard Linux > compatibility stuff that other filesystems handle. > > Plugins --do not-- mean that you can just change the filesystem format > willy-nilly, with zero impact. They --do-- mean that you can change much of the filesystem behavior without requiring massive on-disk changes or massive interface changes. After all, this is how many FUSE plugins work -- standard FS interface, usually uses another standard FS as storage, but does crazy things like compression, encryption, and other transformations in between.