From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A2EC43387 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CA321741 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key) header.d=memeware.net header.i=@memeware.net header.b="V0xNDF5g" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729996AbeL0Uek (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:34:40 -0500 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:53462 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729867AbeL0Uek (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:34:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1545942877; bh=OL/s0UHPW1xPIPf6/CQk21E2UL2uVi9ofZFGoNR80CQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=V0xNDF5gAOEI85WIa208L/qyLoiqm4EY6GFjcXyFCl9x5OF25xxvAe8ITJOmPjkC0 NNupuHecWgKSTErCDhAZJSa3JQvKJXFSoJDQrUFP+olZWGi/wY/7o9wow1S80tCsZo AQAVnmBjKfHzNejKpF20Y2JdFXQM6MZz20yYmvrbbTd6ZjE1rqh7eJLcnm4WQUDYSe pKan5vV6RnF7GhGkrIwntCWRzEWmeFgm0qMeOzyGIdK08L3fWYmR97IZRBIoFWXfjt rIU2aUHbTwq+jIxJlDs6oPtwtd92sFsH3GG2LzP3UC9+j5WEisW6d2wsylJVmWXNxk 21HQzMD1/ybsg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:34:37 +0000 From: vsnsdualce@memeware.net To: dng@lists.dyne.org Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. GPLv2 is a bare license and is revocable by the grantor. In-Reply-To: References: <238e9be2bb4751406260ebdc7686ef54@redchan.it> Message-ID: <45d1521f5aa4962f96f0543bdbae69d9@memeware.net> X-Sender: vsnsdualce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > (2) ... (I am not going to go over the legal mistakes you've made, > because of (1))... I have not made legal mistakes, pompous programmer a__hole*. A gratuitous license, absent an attached interest, is revocable at will. This goes for GPLv2 as used by linux, just as it goes for the BSD license(s). The only entities who have, with regards to BSD, an attached interests are perhaps those companies who pay for its development. Non-gratis (paying) customers may have some refuge under consumer protection statutes, for current versions they have in their posession, paid for by good consideration. Everyone else has NOTHING. Do you understand that? In the case of the 1000's of linux copyright holders to whom no consideration was given by an entity, and the various BSD copyright holders (read: the programmers), who have not ASSIGNED their copyright over to some other entity, there is NOTHING to hold them to a promise THEY NEVER MADE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU F___ING PIECE OF S__T? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NEITHER THEY NOR YOU HAVE PROMISED NOT TO ELLECT TO USE YOUR AS-OF-RIGHT OPTION TO RESCIND YOUR GRATUITOUS LICENSE REGARDING YOUR WORK. One cannot rely on a promise that was never made, additionally many of them were never paid consideration for this non existant promise either. *(Note: I am both a programmer and an attorney, so I know the type) On 2018-12-24 16:01, Raul Miller wrote: > (1) Wrong mailing lists - these are not linux mailing lists. > > (2) ... (I am not going to go over the legal mistakes you've made, > because of (1))... > > (3) Anyways, ... people do make mistakes... But, please stop making > these mistakes. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul >