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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: Documenting ptrace access mode checking
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:02:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465c5a45-f807-3124-2735-f8e18e96b503@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+DoWCT=NwZK-yNBmZOu9LdEn=0-gjJvtPVmNJFanWoKA@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/22/2016 11:11 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 06/21/2016 10:55 PM, Jann Horn wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:41:16AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
>>> wrote:
>>>>        5.  The  kernel LSM security_ptrace_access_check() interface is
>>>>            invoked to see if ptrace access is permitted.  The  results
>>>>            depend on the LSM.  The implementation of this interface in
>>>>            the default LSM performs the following steps:
>>>
>>>
>>> For people who are unaware of how the LSM API works, it might be good to
>>> clarify that the commoncap LSM is *always* invoked; otherwise, it might
>>> give the impression that using another LSM would replace it.
>>
>>
>> As we can see, I am one of those who are unaware of how the LSM API
>> works :-/.
>>
>>> (Also, are there other documents that refer to it as "default LSM"? I
>>> think that that term is slightly confusing.)
>>
>>
>> No, that's a terminological confusion of my own making. Fixed now.
>>
>> I changed this text to:
>>
>>        Various parts of the kernel-user-space API (not just  ptrace(2)
>>        operations), require so-called "ptrace access mode permissions"
>>        which are gated by any enabled Linux Security Module (LSMs)—for
>>        example,  SELinux,  Yama, or Smack—and by the the commoncap LSM
>>        (which is always invoked).  Prior to  Linux  2.6.27,  all  such
>>        checks  were  of a single type.  Since Linux 2.6.27, two access
>>        mode levels are distinguished:
>>
>> BTW, can you point me at the piece(s) of kernel code that show that
>> "commoncap" is always invoked in addition to any other LSM that has
>> been installed?
>
> It's not entirely obvious, but the bottom of security/commoncap.c shows:

Thanks Kees!

Cheers,

Michael

>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY
>
> struct security_hook_list capability_hooks[] = {
>         LSM_HOOK_INIT(capable, cap_capable),
> ...
> };
>
> void __init capability_add_hooks(void)
> {
>         security_add_hooks(capability_hooks, ARRAY_SIZE(capability_hooks));
> }
>
> #endif
>
> And security/security.c shows the initialization order of the LSMs:
>
> int __init security_init(void)
> {
>         pr_info("Security Framework initialized\n");
>
>         /*
>          * Load minor LSMs, with the capability module always first.
>          */
>         capability_add_hooks();
>         yama_add_hooks();
>         loadpin_add_hooks();
>
>         /*
>          * Load all the remaining security modules.
>          */
>         do_security_initcalls();
>
>         return 0;
> }
>
>
> -Kees
>
>
>


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-23  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-21  9:41 Documenting ptrace access mode checking Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-21 19:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-06-21 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 20:58     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-06-22 19:20     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-22 19:20   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-23 19:04     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-06-24  9:57       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-22 21:51   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23  7:06     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-23 18:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-06-24  8:18         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-21 20:55 ` Jann Horn
2016-06-22 19:21   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-22 21:11     ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23  7:02       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2016-06-24  8:40       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-24 15:18         ` Casey Schaufler
2016-06-24 20:07           ` Kees Cook
2016-06-25  7:21           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-22 22:44     ` Jann Horn
2016-06-23  7:42       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-06-24  6:35         ` Jann Horn
2016-06-23 18:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2016-06-24  8:33   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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