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Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> On 08/05/2007 04:36 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> Umm, no f**king way.  atime selection is 100% policy and belongs into
>> userspace.  Add to that the problem that we can't actually re-enable
>> atimes because of the way the vfs-level mount flags API is designed.
>> Instead of doing such a fugly kernel patch just talk to the handfull
>> of distributions that matter to update their defaults.

> We already tried that here. The response: "If noatime is so great, why
> isn't it the default in the kernel?"

Yes, and around and around we go :/

	Jeff