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From: Shanker R Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Vikram Sethi <vsethi@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Sequeira <jsequeira@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] vfio/pci: keep the prefetchable attribute of a BAR region in VMA
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:14:50 -0500
Message-ID: <470360a7-0242-9ae5-816f-13608f957bf6@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210429122840.4f98f78e@redhat.com>

Thanks Alex for quick reply.

On 4/29/21 1:28 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> If this were a valid thing to do, it should be done for all
> architectures, not just ARM64.  However, a prefetchable range only
> necessarily allows merged writes, which seems like a subset of the
> semantics implied by a WC attribute, therefore this doesn't seem
> universally valid.
>
> I'm also a bit confused by your problem statement that indicates that
> without WC you're seeing unaligned accesses, does this suggest that
> your driver is actually relying on WC semantics to perform merging to
> achieve alignment?  That seems rather like a driver bug, I'd expect UC
> vs WC is largely a difference in performance, not a means to enforce
> proper driver access patterns.  Per the PCI spec, the bridge itself can
> merge writes to prefetchable areas, presumably regardless of this
> processor attribute, perhaps that's the feature your driver is relying
> on that might be missing here.  Thanks,
The driver uses WC semantics, It's mapping PCI prefetchable BARS using ioremap_wc().  We don't see any issue for x86 architecture,  driver works fine in the host and guest kernel. The same driver works on ARM64 kernel but crashes inside VM.
GPU driver uses the architecture agnostic function ioremap_wc() like other drivers. This limitation applies to all the drivers if they use WC memory and follow ARM64 NORMAL-NC access rules.

On ARM64, ioremap_wc() is mapped to non-cacheable memory-type, no side effects on reads and unaligned accesses are allowed as per ARM-ARM architecture. The driver behavior is different in host vs guest on ARM64. 

ARM CPU generating alignment faults before transaction reaches the PCI-RC/switch/end-point-device.

We've two concerns here:
   - Performance impacts for pass-through devices.
   - The definition of ioremap_wc() function doesn't match the host kernel on ARM64

 
> Alex
>


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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 16:29 [RFC 0/2] [RFC] Honor PCI prefetchable attributes for a virtual machine on ARM64 Shanker Donthineni
2021-04-29 16:29 ` [RFC 1/2] vfio/pci: keep the prefetchable attribute of a BAR region in VMA Shanker Donthineni
2021-04-29 18:28   ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-29 19:14     ` Shanker R Donthineni [this message]
2021-04-29 19:46       ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-29 22:08         ` Vikram Sethi
2021-04-30 11:25         ` Shanker R Donthineni
     [not found]           ` <87czucngdc.wl-maz@kernel.org>
2021-04-30 13:07             ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-04-30 14:58             ` Shanker R Donthineni
     [not found]               ` <878s4zokll.wl-maz@kernel.org>
2021-04-30 16:57                 ` Vikram Sethi
2021-05-01  9:30                   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-01 11:36                     ` Shanker R Donthineni
     [not found]                       ` <87czu8uowe.wl-maz@kernel.org>
2021-05-03 12:08                         ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-05-02 17:56                     ` Vikram Sethi
2021-05-03 10:17                       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-03 13:35                         ` Mark Kettenis
2021-05-03 13:59                           ` Vikram Sethi
2021-05-03 14:44                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-03 22:03                               ` Vikram Sethi
2021-05-04  8:30                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-05-05 18:02                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-06  7:22                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-08 16:33                                     ` Shanker R Donthineni
2021-06-02  9:37                                       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-04 18:03                                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-02  9:11                                   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-04-30  9:54   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-04-30 12:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-29 16:29 ` [RFC 2/2] KVM: arm64: Add write-combine support for stage-2 entries Shanker Donthineni
2021-05-03  7:01 ` [RFC 0/2] [RFC] Honor PCI prefetchable attributes for a virtual machine on ARM64 Christoph Hellwig

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