From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755892AbXLFWiX (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:38:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752971AbXLFWiN (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:38:13 -0500 Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.179]:62793 "EHLO mho-02-bos.mailhop.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752959AbXLFWiK (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:38:10 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 207.47.95.62 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18SVlpRcRTlb/XdfpmzmnA2 Message-ID: <475879CD.9080006@reed.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:38:05 -0500 From: "David P. Reed" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070727 Fedora/2.0.0.5-2.fc7 Thunderbird/2.0.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org CC: Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern AMD64 with MCP51 laptops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org After much, much testing (months, off and on, pursuing hypotheses), I've discovered that the use of "outb al,0x80" instructions to "delay" after inb and outb instructions causes solid freezes on my HP dv9000z laptop, when ACPI is enabled. It takes a fair number of out's to 0x80, but the hard freeze is reliably reproducible by writing a driver that solely does a loop of 50 outb's to 0x80 and calling it in a loop 1000 times from user space. !!! The serious impact is that the /dev/rtc and /dev/nvram devices are very unreliable - thus "hwclock" freezes very reliably while looping waiting for a new second value and calling "cat /dev/nvram" in a loop freezes the machine if done a few times in a row. This is reproducible, but requires a fair number of outb's to the 0x80 diagnostic port, and seems to require ACPI to be on. io_64.h is the source of these particular instructions, via the CMOS_READ and CMOS_WRITE macros, which are defined in mc146818_64.h. (I wonder if the same problem occurs in 32-bit mode). I'm happy to complete and test a patch, but I'm curious what the right approach ought to be. I have to say I have no clue as to what ACPI is doing on this chipset (nvidia MCP51) that would make port 80 do this. A raw random guess is that something is logging POST codes, but if so, not clear what is problematic in ACPI mode. ANy help/suggestions? Changing the delay instruction sequence from the outb to short jumps might be the safe thing. But Linus, et al. may have experience with that on other architectures like older Pentiums etc.