From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752093AbXLKVDo (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750772AbXLKVDg (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:36 -0500 Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.178]:65163 "EHLO mho-01-bos.mailhop.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750722AbXLKVDf (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:35 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 18.85.9.165 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX189EGNIFmJooNpgHrHZEzz1 Message-ID: <475EFB12.4040007@reed.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:03:14 -0500 From: "David P. Reed" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070727 Fedora/2.0.0.5-2.fc7 Thunderbird/2.0.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" CC: Rene Herman , Alan Cox , Paul Rolland , David Newall , "H. Peter Anvin" , Krzysztof Halasa , Pavel Machek , Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , rol@witbe.net Subject: Re: RFC: outb 0x80 in inb_p, outb_p harmful on some modern AMD64 with MCP51 laptops References: <475879CD.9080006@reed.com> <20071207160439.71b7f46a@the-village.bc.nu> <20071209125458.GB4381@ucw.cz> <20071209165908.GA15910@one.firstfloor.org> <20071209212513.GC24284@elf.ucw.cz> <475CBDD7.5050602@keyaccess.nl> <475DE37F.20706@davidnewall.com> <475DE6F4.80702@zytor.com> <475DEB23.1000304@davidnewall.com> <20071211084059.3d03e11d@tux.DEF.witbe.net> <475E5D4B.8020101@keyaccess.nl> <475E7DC2.4060509@davidnewall.com> <475E8D91.20201@keyaccess.nl> <20071211143224.15900995@tux.DEF.witbe.net> <475E9B9B.2050709@keyaccess.nl> <475EACB8.7080608@keyaccess.nl> <20071211163706.2dc82275@tux.DEF.witbe.net> <475EB263.2050405@keyaccess.nl> <475EC1C0.2040000@reed.com> <20071211173231.2b87a81f@the-village.bc.nu> <475EE2CA.6020601@reed.com> <475EF44D.5050007@keyaccess.nl> In-Reply-To: <475EF44D.5050007@keyaccess.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dick - I didn't work for Don in Boca. I did know him, having met with him several times when he was still alive. I worked from 1979-1985 as a consultant and eventually VP R&D, at Software Arts in Cambridge, MA, and there was a machine we developed the first IBM Visicalc for, in a locked room which required NDA sign-in, with a list of authorized employees and consultants. The machine was a plywood board. It was not a 5150, yet. Note that I did not say I worked in Boca. Funny thing to twist my comments into that assertion. Note: I am not trying to say that I know everything about the history of PC-compatibles, nor am I trying to prove some kind of macho thing. But I do happen to have a lot of practical experience in this space. In particular, I am trying to contribute to Linux to make it better. Largely because I think you guys are doing a great thing, and as a user of it, I think it's a good thing to give back.