From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756673AbYAFAhZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jan 2008 19:37:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753549AbYAFAhO (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jan 2008 19:37:14 -0500 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:53889 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753213AbYAFAhM (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jan 2008 19:37:12 -0500 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <47802249.9010107@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:35:21 +0100 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071216 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk CC: Randy Dunlap , Sam Ravnborg , Al Boldi , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Brownell , Greg KH , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support References: <200801051546.SAA08947@raad.intranet> <20080105113024.209485f5.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> <20080105210330.GC22232@does.not.exist> <20080105210940.GA10302@uranus.ravnborg.org> <47801126.7020807@oracle.com> <20080105234540.GG22232@does.not.exist> In-Reply-To: <20080105234540.GG22232@does.not.exist> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: > Whether or not an option requires an additional subsystem like e.g. SCSI > or SSB are hardware and implementation details we shouldn't bother > kconfig users with. What is an implementation detail and what is not? In the end, everything that we configure in Kconfig is implementation details. PS: Kill 'select' already, and instead work on better UIs if you have got trouble with the complexities of the dependencies graph. The graphic UIs including menuconfig currently work best for tree-like dependencies, but the graph isn't a tree. Think about how to present this properly in an UI. The Kconfig files are the wrong place to attack this problem. PPS: Really, it's *not* hard *at all* to configure a 2.6.24-rc6 kernel with USB storage support. I don't read linux-usb --- has there been repeated questions how to enable usb-storage in the kernel configuration? I can tell you that there has been no such question about sbp2 (FireWire storage support) in years. Don't fix what ain't broken. In fact, don't /break/ what ain't broken by adding more of the (as yet) broken 'select' everywhere. -- Stefan Richter -=====-==--- ---= --==- http://arcgraph.de/sr/