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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, sqazi@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [patch] x86, mm: pass in 'total' to __copy_from_user_*nocache()
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:40:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A9E7A3.4050102@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090228173813.6d86c0ef@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> the reason that movntq and co are faster is because you avoid the
> write-allocate behavior of the caches....
> 
> the cache polluting part of it I find hard to buy for general use (as
> this discussion shows)... that will be extremely hard to measure as
> a real huge thing, while the WA part is like a 1.5x to 2x thing.
> 

Note that hardware *can* (which is not the same thing as hardware
*will*) elide the write-allocate behavior.  We did that at Transmeta for
rep movs and certain other instructions which provably filled in entire
cache lines.  I haven't investigated if newer Intel CPUs do that in the
"fast rep movs" case.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-01  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24  2:03 Performance regression in write() syscall Salman Qazi
2009-02-24  4:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24  4:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-24  9:02     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 15:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-24 16:24         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24 16:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25  3:23         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25  7:25           ` [patch] x86, mm: pass in 'total' to __copy_from_user_*nocache() Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25  8:09             ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25  8:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25  8:59                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 12:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 16:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-25 16:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 12:05               ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28  8:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 11:49                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28 12:58                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 17:16                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28 17:24                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-28 17:42                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28 17:53                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-28 18:05                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-28 18:27                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 18:39                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-02 10:39                                 ` [PATCH] x86, mm: dont use non-temporal stores in pagecache accesses Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 18:52                               ` [patch] x86, mm: pass in 'total' to __copy_from_user_*nocache() Linus Torvalds
2009-03-01 14:19                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01  0:06                             ` David Miller
2009-03-01  0:40                               ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01  0:28                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-01  0:38                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-01  1:48                                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01  1:38                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-01  1:40                                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-03-01 14:06                                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02  4:46                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02  6:18                                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02 21:16                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 21:25                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  4:30                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-03  4:20                                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-03  9:02                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-04  3:37                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01  2:07                                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24  5:43   ` Performance regression in write() syscall Salman Qazi
2009-02-24 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24 16:13   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 16:51     ` Andi Kleen

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