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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Yang, Xiaowei" <xiaowei.yang@intel.com>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	"Li, Xin" <xin.li@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: VM performance issue in KVM guests.
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:40:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC2C07B.4040607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EB8593BCECAB3D40A8248BE0B6400A384690419B@shzsmsx502.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 04/12/2010 05:04 AM, Zhang, Xiantao wrote:
>
>> What was the performance hit?  What was your I/O setup (image format,
>> using aio?)
>>      
> The issue only happens when vcpu number is over-committed(e.g. vcpu/pcpu>2) and physical cpus are saturated. For example,  when run webbench in windows OS in this case, its performance drops by 80%.  In our experiment, we are using image file through virtio, and I think aio should be used by default also.
>    

Is this on a machine that does pause-loop exits?  The current handing of 
PLE is very suboptimal.  With proper directed yield we should be much 
better there.

Without PLE, we need paravirtualized spinlocks, no way around it.

>>> After analysis about Linux scheduler, we found it is indeed caused
>>> by the known features of Linux schduler, such as AFFINE_WAKEUPS,
>>> SYNC_WAKEUPS etc. With these features on, linux schduler often tries
>>> to schedule the vcpu threads of one guests to one same logical
>>> processor when vcpus are over-committed and logical processors are
>>> saturated. Once the vcpu threads of one VM are scheduled to the same
>>> LP, system performance drops dramatically with some workloads(like
>>> webbench running in windows OS).
>>>
>>>        
>> Were the affine wakeups due to the kernel (emulated guest IPIs) or
>> qemu?
>>      
> We have basic guesses about the reasone, one is wakeup affinity between vcpu threads due to IPI, and the other is wakeup affinity between io theads and vcpu threads.
>    

It would be good to find out.

>> Most likely it also hits non-virtualized loads as well.  If the
>> scheduler pulls two long-running threads to the same cpu, performance
>> will take a hit.
>>      
> Since the hit only happens when physical cpus are saturated, and sheduling non-virtualized multiple threads of one process to same processor can benefit the performance due to cache share or other affinities, but you know it hurts performance a lot once schedule two vcpu theads to a same processor due to mutual spin-lock in guests.
>    

Spin loops need to be addressed first, they are known to kill 
performance in overcommit situations.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-12  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <EB8593BCECAB3D40A8248BE0B6400A3846903F4C@shzsmsx502.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2010-04-10 19:27 ` VM performance issue in KVM guests Avi Kivity
2010-04-12  2:04   ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-04-12  6:40     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-13  0:50       ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-04-13  6:46         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-14  3:24           ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-04-14  8:14             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-16  2:27               ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-04-17 19:02                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]       ` <p2o2eae271004142158xaa5da968ueff0c2afe6894f9d@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-15  8:18         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15 13:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 16:43             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-04-16 10:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19  1:32               ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-04-17 19:04             ` Avi Kivity

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