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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:17:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE3C7C2.7000200@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101117120740.GA24972@elte.hu>

Hi Ingo,

On 11/17/10 2:07 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Pekka Enberg<penberg@kernel.org>  wrote:
>
>> (Trimming CC for sanity.)
> [ Added back Linus (in case he wants to object to the new prctl()) and lkml. ]
>
>> On 11/16/10 11:04 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> 'trace' is our shot at improving the situation: it aims at providing a
>>> simple to use and straightforward tracing tool based on the perf
>>> infrastructure and on the well-known perf profiling workflow:
>>>
>>>     trace record firefox          # trace firefox and all child tasks,
>>>                                     put it into trace.data
>>>
>>>     trace summary                 # show quick overview of the trace,
>>>                                     based on trace.data
>>>
>>>     trace report                  # detailed traces, based on trace.data
>> Nice work guys!
>>
>> Does this concept lend itself to tracing latencies in userspace applications that
>> run in virtual machines (e.g. the Java kind)? I'm of course interested in this
>> because of Jato [1] where bunch of interesting things can cause jitter: JIT
>> compilation, GC, kernel, and the actual application doing something (in either
>> native code or JIT'd code). It's important to be able to measure where "slowness"
>> to desktop applications and certain class of server applications comes from to be
>> able to improve things.
> Makes quite a bit of sense.
>
> How about the attached patch? It works fine with the simple testcase included in the
> changelog. There's a common-sense limit on the message size - but otherwise it adds
> support for apps to generate a free-form string trace event.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 	Ingo
>
> ---------------------------------->
> Subject: trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection
> From: Ingo Molnar<mingo@elte.hu>
> Date: Wed Nov 17 10:11:53 CET 2010
>
> This feature (suggested by Darren Hart and Pekka Engberg) allows user-space
> programs to print trace events in a very simple and self-contained way:
>
>   #include<sys/prctl.h>
>   #include<string.h>
>
>   #define PR_TASK_PERF_USER_TRACE 35
>
>   int main(void)
>   {
>           char *msg = "Hello World!\n";
>
>           prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_USER_TRACE, msg, strlen(msg));
>
>           return 0;
>   }
>
> These show up in 'trace' output as:
>
>   $ trace report
>   #
>   # trace events of 'sleep 1':
>   #
>          testit/ 6006 ( 0.002 ms):<"Hello World!">
>          testit/ 6006 ( 0.002 ms):<"Hello World!">

Wow! This looks really nice!

What does the duration in milliseconds mean there? For things like GC 
and JIT, I want something like:

void gc(void)
{
         prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_USER_TRACE_START, ...)

         collect();

         prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_USER_TRACE_END, ...)
}

So that it's clear from the tracing output that the VM was busy doing GC 
for n milliseconds. Barring background JIT'ing and pauseless GC, I'd 
also be interested in showing how much time the VM was actually 
_blocking_ the running application (which can happen with signals too, 
btw, for things like accessing data that's lazily initialized).

             Pekka

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 21:04 [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-16 21:27 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 21:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 22:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:09       ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:48         ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:07     ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17  8:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 11:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:43                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:10                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 15:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:13                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 18:29                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 18:30                           ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 16:49             ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 23:23       ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17  1:37 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  1:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  3:16     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  3:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:00         ` Bob Copeland
2010-11-17 13:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 14:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 14:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:41               ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 15:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:58                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 16:20                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:08                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:10           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:04               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 16:15               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:40                 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 18:23               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18  5:58                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-18  6:00               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-17 15:33           ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 18:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 18:53               ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:02                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 19:25                   ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:25               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  9:49 ` Philipp Marek
     [not found] ` <4CE38C53.8090606@kernel.org>
2010-11-17 12:07   ` [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:17     ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2010-11-17 12:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:33         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:58             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:30       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:33           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18  1:18     ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18  8:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 16:25         ` hp
2010-11-18 18:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 19:13             ` AW: " Reichert, Hans-Peter
2010-11-18 17:06         ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 12:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Török Edwin
2010-11-17 12:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:05     ` Török Edwin
2010-11-17 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18  0:47 ` Ian Munsie
     [not found]   ` <20101118151141.GA3368@redhat.com>
2010-11-19  2:32     ` Ian Munsie
2010-11-19 15:23       ` Jason Baron
     [not found]       ` <4CECACF9.3080907@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <4CFD7182.4060206@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-12-07  4:03           ` PowerPC, ftrace: Add PPC raw syscall tracepoints & ftrace fixes Ian Munsie

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