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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: RFD: x32 ABI system call numbers
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:31:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5BDAF6.40000@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201108291704.08279.arnd@arndb.de>

On 08/29/2011 08:04 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> Right. The asm-generic/unistd.h interface doesn't provide them either
> for new architectures and expects libc to emulate them for any user
> application whose developers can't be bothered to fix their code.
> 
> I think I've also commented in the past that I think x32 should use
> the same set of syscalls asm asm-generic, even if it's more convenient
> to use a different ordering.
> 

It definitely is not convenient to use asm-generic for a whole lot of
reasons, which basically comes down to leveraging the existing x86-64
system calls plus leveraging the i386-on-x86-64 compat layer as much as
possible.

I talked to H.J. this morning and we're certainly dropping the 32-bit
filesystem calls.  I'm going to audit which paths have both time_t
(including struct timespec/timeval) and pointers; that is hopefully a
matter of legwork.  This will mean introducing new ioctls, but it's not
clear how many.

The end result is going to be bigger than the current patchset (which is
+2197 -510, and most of which is just the system call tables themselves;
the balance is only +690 -105), but it is definitely a *better* ABI.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-29 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-26 23:00 RFD: x32 ABI system call numbers H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-26 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-26 23:39   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-27  0:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-27  0:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-27  0:53         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-27  1:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-27  1:35             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-27  1:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-27  1:12         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-27  1:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-29 19:01             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-08-29 19:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-30  1:17               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-08-30  1:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-30  2:16                 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-08-30  4:45                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-30  7:06                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-08-30 12:18                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-30  7:09                   ` Andi Kleen
2011-08-30  9:56                     ` Alan Cox
2011-08-30  7:00                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-09-20 18:37                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-09-06 20:40         ` Florian Weimer
2011-08-27  0:57       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-27  4:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-29 15:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-29 18:31             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2011-08-30 12:09               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-30 16:35                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 16:14                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-31 16:25                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 16:39                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-31 16:48                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-31 19:18                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-31 19:44                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 19:54                               ` Alan Cox
2011-08-31 20:02                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 20:55                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-31 20:58                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 19:49                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-08-31 16:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-31 17:05                       ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03  2:56                         ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03  3:04                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-03  4:02                             ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03  4:29                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-03  4:44                                 ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03  5:16                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-03 14:11                                     ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03  5:29                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-03  8:41                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-03 14:04                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-03 16:40                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-03 17:16                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-03 17:22                                             ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03 17:28                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-03 17:27                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-04 13:51                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-04 15:17                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-04 17:08                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-04 18:40                                                 ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-04 19:06                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-04 19:31                                                     ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-04 21:13                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-04 21:25                                                         ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-04 21:41                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-04 22:13                                                             ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-05  7:48                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-05 15:11                                                                 ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-05 17:21                                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-05 19:34                                                                     ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-05 19:54                                                                       ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-05 19:59                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-05 20:27                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-09 21:02                                                                   ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-04 20:11                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-04 19:31                                                   ` richard -rw- weinberger
2011-09-04 19:32                                                     ` H.J. Lu
2011-09-03 14:15                                     ` H.J. Lu
2011-08-31 17:09                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-31 17:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-31 17:38                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-01 11:35                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-10-01 19:38                               ` Jonas Bonn
2012-02-08 21:36                           ` 64-bit time on 32-bit systems H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-01 13:30                         ` RFD: x32 ABI system call numbers Avi Kivity
2011-09-01 14:13                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-02  0:49                             ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-02  1:51                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-02  8:02                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-09-02  8:42                                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-09-01  6:08                     ` Jonas Bonn
2011-09-02  6:17     ` Andy Lutomirski

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