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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
	Trinabh Gupta <g.trinabh@gmail.com>,
	Deepthi Dharwar <deepthi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] coupled cpuidle state support
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:02:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EF1A0B4.5080307@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1324426147-16735-1-git-send-email-ccross@android.com>

On 12/21/2011 1:09 AM, Colin Cross wrote:
> On some ARM SMP SoCs (OMAP4460, Tegra 2, and probably more), the
> cpus cannot be independently powered down, either due to
> sequencing restrictions (on Tegra 2, cpu 0 must be the last to
> power down), or due to HW bugs (on OMAP4460, a cpu powering up
> will corrupt the gic state unless the other cpu runs a work
> around).  Each cpu has a power state that it can enter without
> coordinating with the other cpu (usually Wait For Interrupt, or
> WFI), and one or more "coupled" power states that affect blocks
> shared between the cpus (L2 cache, interrupt controller, and
> sometimes the whole SoC).  Entering a coupled power state must
> be tightly controlled on both cpus.
> 
> The easiest solution to implementing coupled cpu power states is
> to hotplug all but one cpu whenever possible, usually using a
> cpufreq governor that looks at cpu load to determine when to
> enable the secondary cpus.  This causes problems, as hotplug is an
> expensive operation, so the number of hotplug transitions must be
> minimized, leading to very slow response to loads, often on the
> order of seconds.
> 
> This patch series implements an alternative solution, where each
> cpu will wait in the WFI state until all cpus are ready to enter
> a coupled state, at which point the coupled state function will
> be called on all cpus at approximately the same time.
> 
> Once all cpus are ready to enter idle, they are woken by an smp
> cross call.  At this point, there is a chance that one of the
> cpus will find work to do, and choose not to enter suspend.  A
> final pass is needed to guarantee that all cpus will call the
> power state enter function at the same time.  During this pass,
> each cpu will increment the ready counter, and continue once the
> ready counter matches the number of online coupled cpus.  If any
> cpu exits idle, the other cpus will decrement their counter and
> retry.

this smells fundamentally racey to me; you can get an interrupt one
cycle after you think you're done, but before the last guy enters WFI...

how do you solve that issue ?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-21  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21  0:09 [PATCH 0/3] coupled cpuidle state support Colin Cross
2011-12-21  0:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: refactor out cpuidle_enter_state Colin Cross
2012-01-04 14:08   ` [linux-pm] " Jean Pihet
2011-12-21  0:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] cpuidle: fix error handling in __cpuidle_register_device Colin Cross
2011-12-21  0:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpuidle: add support for states that affect multiple cpus Colin Cross
2011-12-21  9:02 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2011-12-21  9:40   ` [PATCH 0/3] coupled cpuidle state support Colin Cross
2011-12-21  9:44     ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-12-21  9:55       ` Colin Cross
2011-12-21 12:12         ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-12-21 19:05           ` Colin Cross
2011-12-21 19:36             ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-12-21 19:42               ` [linux-pm] " Colin Cross
2011-12-22  8:35                 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2011-12-22  8:53                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-12-22  9:30                     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2011-12-22 21:20                     ` Colin Cross
2012-03-14  0:39           ` Colin Cross
2012-01-04  0:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-01-04 17:27   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-01-20  8:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-01-20 20:40   ` Colin Cross
2012-01-25 14:04     ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-01-31 14:13       ` Daniel Lezcano
2012-01-27  8:54     ` [linux-pm] " Vincent Guittot
2012-01-27 17:32       ` Colin Cross
2012-02-01 12:13         ` Vincent Guittot
2012-02-01 14:59           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-02-01 17:30             ` Colin Cross
2012-02-01 18:07               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2012-02-03  1:19                 ` Colin Cross
     [not found]   ` <8762e8kqi6.fsf@ti.com>
2012-03-14  0:28     ` Colin Cross
2012-03-14  0:47       ` Colin Cross
2012-03-14 14:23         ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2012-03-14  2:04     ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-03-14  2:21       ` Colin Cross

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