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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	drepper@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nextfd(2)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:10:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F7C808B.7050705@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120404030117.GA6589@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

(4/3/12 8:01 PM), Al Viro wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 03:57:42PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
>> Currently there is no reliable way to close all opened file descriptors
>> (which daemons need and like to do):
>>
>> * dumb close(fd) loop is slow, upper bound is unknown and
>>    can be arbitrary large,
>>
>> * /proc/self/fd is unreliable:
>>    proc may be unconfigured or not mounted at expected place.
>>    Looking at /proc/self/fd requires opening directory
>>    which may not be available due to malicious rlimit drop or ENOMEM situations.
>>    Not opening directory is equivalent to dumb close(2) loop except slower.
>>
>> BSD added closefrom(fd) which is OK for this exact purpose but suboptimal
>> on the bigger scale. closefrom(2) does only close(2) (obviously :-)
>> closefrom(2) siletly ignores errors from close(2) which in theory is not OK
>> for userspace.
>>
>> So, don't add closefrom(2), add nextfd(2).
>
> Or unshare(CLONE_FILES_EMPTY) to steal an idea from rfork(2) (Plan 9 one,
> that is - I don't remember if its *BSD analog has that).  Basically, they
> allow 3 kinds of behaviour on clone(2) analog (and unshare(2) is part of
> the same thing there):
> 	1) share descriptor table with parent (default for rfork(2))
> 	2) copy descriptor table from parent (RFFDG is set in flags)
> 	3) give child an empty descriptor table (RFCFDG is set in flags)
> They have something similar for namespace, BTW - the same share/copy/clean
> triple.

Please remember why closefrom() have "from" argument. Almost all case, people
don't cloase fd 0,1,2 (rarely and 3).

If we add 2nd argument into unshare(CLONE_FILES_EMPTY), It become more ugly than
current nextfd proposal.

      reply	other threads:[~2012-04-04 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-01 12:57 [PATCH] nextfd(2) Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 13:58 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-01 21:30   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-02  0:09   ` Alan Cox
2012-04-02  8:38     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-04-01 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-01 21:31   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 21:36   ` Alan Cox
2012-04-01 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-01 18:28 ` Valentin Nechayev
2012-04-01 21:33   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 19:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-01 21:35   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 22:05   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-04 12:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-01 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-01 22:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02  0:08   ` Alan Cox
2012-04-30  9:58     ` Valentin Nechayev
2012-04-02  1:19   ` Kyle Moffett
2012-04-02  1:37     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02 11:37     ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-06  9:54   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-06 15:27     ` Colin Walters
2012-04-06 16:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-06 20:16       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-06 20:33         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-06 21:02         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-12 10:54           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 11:11             ` Alan Cox
2012-04-12 13:35               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 13:51                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-12 19:21                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 14:09               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-06 16:23     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-07 21:21       ` Ben Pfaff
2012-04-11  0:12         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11  0:09       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 17:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 18:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-11 18:11             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:46               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:49                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 20:23                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 20:32                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-17 18:12                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 18:00         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:20           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:22             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:26               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:28                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:31                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:32                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02 23:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-02 23:56   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-04 11:51     ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 16:38       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 16:43         ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 17:07           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 17:49             ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 18:08               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 16:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 17:10       ` Colin Walters
2012-04-04 17:25         ` Colin Walters
2012-04-04 23:35         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 18:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-03 19:21   ` Colin Walters
2012-04-04  3:01 ` Al Viro
2012-04-04 17:10   ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]

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