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Violators will be prosecuted; (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256) Tue, 2 Apr 2019 22:11:49 +0100 Received: from b03ledav005.gho.boulder.ibm.com (b03ledav005.gho.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.130.236]) by b03cxnp07028.gho.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id x32LBmMW22741002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 2 Apr 2019 21:11:48 GMT Received: from b03ledav005.gho.boulder.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2683BBE058; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 21:11:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b03ledav005.gho.boulder.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id B240EBE051; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 21:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [9.18.235.111] (unknown [9.18.235.111]) by b03ledav005.gho.boulder.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 21:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Enabling secure boot on PowerNV systems To: Matthew Garrett Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-efi , linux-integrity , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Michael Ellerman , Paul Mackerras , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Ard Biesheuvel , Jeremy Kerr , Matthew Garret , Nayna Jain References: <20190402181505.25037-1-cclaudio@linux.ibm.com> From: Claudio Carvalho Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 18:11:44 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 19040221-0012-0000-0000-0000172198AF X-IBM-SpamModules-Scores: X-IBM-SpamModules-Versions: BY=3.00010863; HX=3.00000242; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000284; SDB=6.01183418; UDB=6.00619558; IPR=6.00964167; MB=3.00026265; MTD=3.00000008; XFM=3.00000015; UTC=2019-04-02 21:11:52 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 19040221-0013-0000-0000-000056BAB681 Message-Id: <4ce5e057-0702-b0d5-7bb2-cea5b22e2efa@linux.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-04-02_09:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1904020141 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/2/19 4:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:15 AM Claudio Carvalho wrote: >> 1. Enable efivarfs by selecting CONFIG_EFI in the CONFIG_OPAL_SECVAR >> introduced in this patch set. With CONFIG_EFIVAR_FS, userspace tools can >> be used to manage the secure variables. > efivarfs has some pretty significant behavioural semantics that > directly reflect the EFI specification. Using it to expose non-EFI > variable data feels like it's going to increase fragility - there's a > risk that we'll change things in a way that makes sense for the EFI > spec but breaks your use case. Is the desire to use efivarfs to > maintain consistency with existing userland tooling, or just to avoid > having a separate filesystem? > We want to use the efivarfs for compatibility with existing userspace tools. We will track and match any EFI changes that affect us. Our use case is restricted to secure boot - this is not going to be a general purpose EFI variable implementation. Claudio