From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261501AbVBNVZn (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:25:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261506AbVBNVZm (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:25:42 -0500 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.205]:40684 "EHLO rproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261501AbVBNVZU (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:25:20 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=eytXeSb4etJVKD+G7qUq+GEn7celnqIC51CdmLlbM0Ue3xXIQoU+xJotnXd9n/is/GgLb3x64ZjzsGRezMyOWLSDRrMbczo5vfRao2K12ttihoPadCFmBryNdGwvMpIhrb90GWjrelytovrsrRJ51XdgGGM+8lN8vr9ppeUm/ys= Message-ID: <4d8e3fd3050214132512989629@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:25:16 +0100 From: Paolo Ciarrocchi Reply-To: Paolo Ciarrocchi To: Adrian Bunk Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed Cc: lm@bitmover.com, Matthew Jacob , Jeff Sipek , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20050214203651.GA24554@stusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> <58cb370e05021404081e53f458@mail.gmail.com> <20050214150820.GA21961@optonline.net> <20050214154015.GA8075@bitmover.com> <7579f7fb0502141017f5738d1@mail.gmail.com> <20050214185624.GA16029@bitmover.com> <20050214203651.GA24554@stusta.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Disclaimer: > I did never use BK and I do not plan to use it. Same here, but just because I'm not a developer ;-) [...] > I don't know about copyright law in other countries (and the USA have > both a pretty different legal system and a pretty different copyright > law than Germany), but in Germany the clause you mentioned is simply > void according to German copyright law. > > German copyright law doesn't distinguish whether you get money for > allowing the usage of the program or not. > > The licence is still valid but the clause is void. > > I can accept a void licence clause because this doesn't make it > non-void. That's not uncommon. Perhaps 95% of all software licences > contain clauses that are simply void. > > In case you ask: > No, there is no case law in Germany - we have a different legal system. > > If you like it or not - at least for people in Germany, I see no way how > the law allows you to enforce what you are trying to do. > > You can say it might be morally wrong to break this licence clause - but > this doesn't make it illegal. I think this is true not only in Germany, if I were Larry I would check if the licence is valid in EU. -- Paolo msn: paolo407@hotmail.com hello: ciarrop