From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:15 -0500 Received: from fluent2.pyramid.net ([206.100.220.213]:13705 "EHLO fluent2.pyramid.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030111210824.01d30bc0@fluent2.pyramid.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:12:58 -0800 To: robw@optonline.net, David Lang From: Stephen Satchell Subject: Re: The GPL, the kernel, and everything else. Cc: Ryan Anderson , Linux kernel list In-Reply-To: <1042347339.1033.191.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At 11:55 PM 1/11/03 -0500, Rob Wilkens wrote: > > as for signing kernel modules as being 'good' you have a serious problem > > in the Linux world that there is no central authority to do any such > > signing. > >Microsoft uses Verisign I believe, which is a company linux commands >like "whois" already use to do nameserver lookups for example. It's a >third party, and hardware manufacturers probably already have >certificates from them. Microsoft doesn't use Verisign for its driver signing -- it's a proprietary system that is hard-wired into Windows. I would guess you are confusing SSL certificates with module signatures. As for "whois" you will find the default host for the GNU version is "whois.crsnic.net", which is not Verisign. Microsoft signs modules that passes their test suite, and for which vendors pay a pretty penny (five digits' worth in US Dollars, if I recall correctly). There is no comparable central authority for Linux or GNU software, nor would vendors be interested in spending the kind of dollars that would be associated with that sort of certification. If they would, I would LOVE to start such a business. Satch -- The human mind treats a new idea the way the body treats a strange protein: it rejects it. -- P. Medawar This posting is for entertainment purposes only; it is not a legal opinion.