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From: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: add support for zsmalloc and zcache
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:02:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506B2C4B.3080508@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76d1a3f1-efc5-48b5-b485-604a94adcc1d@default>

On 09/27/2012 05:07 PM, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> Of course, I'm of the opinion that neither zcache1 nor
> zcache2 would be likely to be promoted for at least another
> cycle or two, so if you go with zcache2+zsmalloc as the compromise
> and it still takes six months for promotion, I hope you don't
> blame that on the "rewrite". ;-)
> 
> Anyway, looking forward (hopefully) to working with you on
> a good compromise.  It would be nice to get back to coding
> and working together on a single path forward for zcache
> as there is a lot of work to do!

We want to see zcache moving forward so that it can get out of staging
and into the hands of end users.  From the direction the discussion
has taken, replacing zcache with the new code appears to be the right
compromise for the situation.  Moving to the new zcache code resets
the clock so I would like to know that we're all on the same track...

1- Promotion must be the top priority, focus needs to be on making the
code production ready rather than adding more features.

2- The code is in the community and development must be done in
public, no further large private rewrites.

3- Benchmarks need to be agreed on, Mel has suggested some of the
MMTests. We need a way to talk about performance so we can make
comparisions, avoid regressions, and talk about promotion criteria.
They should be something any developer can run.

4- Let's investigate breaking ramster out of zcache so that zcache
remains a separately testable building block; Konrad was looking at
this I believe.  RAMSTer adds another functional mode for zcache and
adds to the difficulty of validating patches.  Not every developer
has a cluster of machines to validate RAMSter.

Seth


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-02 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-04 21:34 [RFC] mm: add support for zsmalloc and zcache Seth Jennings
2012-09-21 16:12 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 18:02   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-21 19:02     ` Seth Jennings
2012-09-21 20:35       ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-22  1:07         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-22 21:18           ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-24 10:31             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24 20:36               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-25 10:20                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-23  7:34           ` James Bottomley
2012-09-24 20:05             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-24 17:25         ` Seth Jennings
2012-09-24 19:17           ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-27 20:25             ` Seth Jennings
2012-09-27 22:07               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-10-02 18:02                 ` Seth Jennings [this message]
2012-10-02 18:17                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-10-04 14:36                     ` Seth Jennings
2012-10-26 21:45                     ` Seth Jennings
2012-11-02 16:14                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-25 10:33           ` James Bottomley
2012-09-21 19:14   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-22  0:25     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-22 13:31     ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-22 13:38       ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-25 19:22         ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-21 19:16   ` Seth Jennings
     [not found] <<1346794486-12107-1-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2012-09-06 20:37 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-07 14:37   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-09  3:46     ` Nitin Gupta
2012-09-17 20:42       ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-17 23:46         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-09-07 17:31   ` Seth Jennings

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