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From: "Maxim V. Patlasov" <mpatlasov@parallels.com>
To: Feng Shuo <steve.shuo.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: <miklos@szeredi.hu>, <dev@parallels.com>,
	"fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	<viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] fuse: An attempt to implement a write-back cache policy
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:56:51 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B47243.9080706@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALmpHyb5wpn-dABuEwpypUggRY=1aULvJW0z17HpH50pr1=HKg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Feng,

11/27/2012 05:04 AM, Feng Shuo пишет:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I'm new to fuse but have some experience with NFS. From my
> understanding after reviewing your patchset, it seems only work with
> local file system or a distributed file system whose file is never
> modified (could be grown but no or very few modified) because it
> doesn't exam the pre/post status of the writing object (e.g. a file).
> So if a file is modified outside, fuse might not get any chance to
> handle it...... Correct me if I got wrong since I'm really new to
> fuse. :-)

This topic was discussed when Pavel sent initial version of patches (you 
can find it in fuse-devel archives). Brian asked:

> Would this pose a problem for a filesystem in which the size of the
> inode can change remotely (i.e., not visible to the local instance of
> fuse)? I haven't tested this, but it seems like it could be an issue
> based on the implementation.

And Pavel replied:

> Yes, it will. The model of i_size management I implemented here is based
> on an assumption that the userspace is just a storage for data and should
> catch up with the kernel i_size value. In order to make it possible for user
> space to update i_size in kernel we'd have to implement some (probably)
> tricky algorithm, I haven't yet thought about it.

The patch-set follows the model "trust kernel i_size only". This works 
fine at least in case of userspace fuse wtih exclusive write semantics. 
In case of mutual concurrent internal/external read/write access, sysad 
should not turn the feature on (it's turned off by default). I wouldn't 
like to complicate the patch-set further adding bits for that case. This 
area is opened for future enhancements :)

Thanks,
Maxim

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-27  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-16 17:04 [PATCH v2 00/14] fuse: An attempt to implement a write-back cache policy Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:05 ` [PATCH 01/14] fuse: Linking file to inode helper Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:05 ` [PATCH 02/14] fuse: Getting file for writeback helper Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:06 ` [PATCH 03/14] fuse: Prepare to handle short reads Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:07 ` [PATCH 04/14] fuse: Prepare to handle multiple pages in writeback Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:07 ` [PATCH 05/14] fuse: Connection bit for enabling writeback Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:07 ` [PATCH 06/14] fuse: Trust kernel i_size only Maxim Patlasov
2012-12-05 16:39   ` [PATCH] fuse: Trust kernel i_size only - v2 Maxim Patlasov
2012-12-05 16:40   ` [PATCH] fuse: Implement writepages and write_begin/write_end callbacks " Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:09 ` [PATCH 07/14] fuse: Update i_mtime on buffered writes Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:09 ` [PATCH 08/14] fuse: Flush files on wb close Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:09 ` [PATCH 09/14] fuse: Implement writepages and write_begin/write_end callbacks Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:09 ` [PATCH 10/14] fuse: fuse_writepage_locked() should wait on writeback Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:10 ` [PATCH 11/14] fuse: fuse_flush() " Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:10 ` [PATCH 12/14] fuse: Fix O_DIRECT operations vs cached writeback misorder Maxim Patlasov
2012-12-05 16:43   ` [PATCH] fuse: Fix O_DIRECT operations vs cached writeback misorder - v2 Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:10 ` [PATCH 13/14] fuse: Turn writeback cache on Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-16 17:10 ` [PATCH 14/14] mm: Account for WRITEBACK_TEMP in balance_dirty_pages Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-21 12:01   ` Maxim Patlasov
2012-11-22 13:27     ` Jaegeuk Hanse
2012-11-22 13:56       ` Maxim V. Patlasov
2012-11-27  1:04 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] fuse: An attempt to implement a write-back cache policy Feng Shuo
2012-11-27  7:56   ` Maxim V. Patlasov [this message]
2012-12-12 14:53 ` Maxim V. Patlasov
2013-01-15 15:20   ` Maxim V. Patlasov
2013-01-25 10:21     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-01-25 12:50       ` Maxim V. Patlasov

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