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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, sbw@mit.edu,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light"	atomic readers to prevent CPU offline
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 01:06:42 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C0F3CA.7070105@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1354822103.17101.24.camel@gandalf.local.home>

On 12/07/2012 12:58 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 00:18 +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> On 12/06/2012 09:48 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 12/06, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +void get_online_cpus_atomic(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	int c, old;
>>>> +
>>>> +	preempt_disable();
>>>> +	read_lock(&hotplug_rwlock);
>>>
>>> Confused... Why it also takes hotplug_rwlock?
>>
>> To avoid ABBA deadlocks.
>>
>> hotplug_rwlock was meant for the "light" readers.
>> The atomic counters were meant for the "heavy/full" readers.
>> I wanted them to be able to nest in any manner they wanted,
>> such as:
>>
>> Full inside light:
>>
>> get_online_cpus_atomic_light()
>> 	...
>> 	get_online_cpus_atomic_full()
>> 	...
>> 	put_online_cpus_atomic_full()
>> 	...
>> put_online_cpus_atomic_light()
>>
>> Or, light inside full:
>>
>> get_online_cpus_atomic_full()
>> 	...
>> 	get_online_cpus_atomic_light()
>> 	...
>> 	put_online_cpus_atomic_light()
>> 	...
>> put_online_cpus_atomic_full()
>>
>> To allow this, I made the two sets of APIs take the locks
>> in the same order internally.
>>
>> (I had some more description of this logic in the changelog
>> of 2/10; the only difference there is that instead of atomic
>> counters, I used rwlocks for the full-readers as well.
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/5/320)
>>
> 
> You know reader locks can deadlock with each other, right? And this
> isn't caught be lockdep yet. This is because rwlocks have been made to
> be fair with writers. Before writers could be starved if a CPU always
> let a reader in. Now if a writer is waiting, a reader will block behind
> the writer. But this has introduced new issues with the kernel as
> follows:
> 
> 
>    CPU0			   CPU1	 	   CPU2		   CPU3
>    ----			   ----		   ----		   ----
> read_lock(A);
> 			read_lock(B)
> 					write_lock(A) <- block
> 							write_lock(B) <- block
> read_lock(B) <-block
> 
> 			read_lock(A) <- block
> 
> DEADLOCK!
> 

The root-cause of this deadlock is again lock-ordering mismatch right?
CPU0 takes locks in order A, B
CPU1 takes locks in order B, A

And the writer facilitates in actually getting deadlocked.

I avoid this in this patchset by always taking the locks in the same
order. So we won't be deadlocking like this.

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat



  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-06 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-05 18:42 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10][RESEND] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:47   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:51     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:53       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:56         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:59           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:14             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 16:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 18:48                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 19:17                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 21:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 19:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-06 19:36                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-12-06 22:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 17:33                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
     [not found]                     ` <20121207200014.GB13238@redhat.com>
2012-12-10 18:21                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 19:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 19:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-07 20:25                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 20:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:16     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "full" " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:01   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:31     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:57       ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-06  4:31         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] kvm, vmx: Add full atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:12     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
     [not found] <20121205131038.17383.55472.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20121205131136.17383.23318.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com>
     [not found]   ` <20121205142316.GI3885@mtj.dyndns.org>
     [not found]     ` <20121205164640.GA7382@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20121205165356.GL3885@mtj.dyndns.org>
2012-12-05 18:15         ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 18:27           ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-05 18:32         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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