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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Eliezer Tamir <eliezer.tamir@linux.jf.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, HPA <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Eliezer Tamir <eliezer@tamir.org.il>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] net: low latency Ethernet device polling
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:58:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512E654A.2010209@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130227175549.10611.82188.stgit@gitlad.jf.intel.com>

On 02/27/2013 09:55 AM, Eliezer Tamir wrote:
> This patchset adds the ability for the socket layer code to poll directly
> on an Ethernet device's RX queue. This eliminates the cost of the interrupt
> and context switch and with proper tuning allows us to get very close
> to the HW latency.
>
> This is a follow up to Jesse Brandeburg's Kernel Plumbers talk from last year
> http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2012-lpc-Low-Latency-Sockets-slides-brandeburg.pdf
>
> Patch 1 adds ndo_ll_poll and the IP code to use it.
> Patch 2 is an example of how TCP can use ndo_ll_poll.
> Patch 3 shows how this method would be implemented for the ixgbe driver.
> Patch 4 adds statistics to the ixgbe driver for ndo_ll_poll events.
> (Optional) Patch 5 is a handy kprobes module to measure detailed latency
> numbers.
>
> this patchset is also available in the following git branch
> git://github.com/jbrandeb/lls.git rfc
>
> Performance numbers:
> Kernel   Config     C3/6  rx-usecs  TCP  UDP
> 3.8rc6   typical    off   adaptive  37k  40k
> 3.8rc6   typical    off   0*        50k  56k
> 3.8rc6   optimized  off   0*        61k  67k
> 3.8rc6   optimized  on    adaptive  26k  29k
> patched  typical    off   adaptive  70k  78k
> patched  optimized  off   adaptive  79k  88k
> patched  optimized  off   100       84k  92k
> patched  optimized  on    adaptive  83k  91k
> *rx-usecs=0 is usually not useful in a production environment.

I would think that latency-sensitive folks would be using rx-usecs=0 in 
production - at least if the NIC in use didn't have low enough latency 
with its default interrupt coalescing/avoidance heuristics.

If I take the first "pure" A/B comparison it seems that the change as 
benchmarked takes latency for TCP from ~27 usec (37k) to ~14 usec (70k). 
  At what request/response size does the benefit taper-off?  13 usec 
seems to be about 16250 bytes at 10 GbE.

When I last looked at netperf TCP_RR performance where something similar 
could happen I think it was IPoIB where it was possible to set things up 
such that polling happened rather than wakeups (perhaps it was with a 
shim library that converted netperf's socket calls to "native" IB).  My 
recollection is that it "did a number" on the netperf service demands 
thanks to the spinning.  It would be a good thing to include those 
figures in any subsequent rounds of benchmarking.

Am I correct in assuming this is a mechanism which would not be used in 
a high aggregate PPS situation?

happy benchmarking,

rick jones

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-27 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-27 17:55 [RFC PATCH 0/5] net: low latency Ethernet device polling Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 17:55 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] net: implement support for low latency socket polling Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-03 18:35   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-03 19:21     ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-03 21:20       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-04  3:55         ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-04  8:43     ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04 14:52       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-04 15:28         ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04 16:15           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-04  7:23   ` Cong Wang
2013-03-05 16:43   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-05 17:15     ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-05 19:57       ` David Miller
2013-03-05 19:55     ` David Miller
2013-03-05 20:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-27 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] tcp: add TCP support for low latency receive poll Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-05 17:13   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-02-27 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] ixgbe: Add support for ndo_ll_poll Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 18:41   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-02-27 19:20     ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-05 17:26   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-05 17:28     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-05 17:36       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-02-27 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] ixgbe: add extra stats " Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 17:56 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] ixgbe: kprobes latency test module Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 18:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] net: low latency Ethernet device polling Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 18:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-02-27 18:47   ` Tom Herbert
2013-02-27 19:17     ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04 22:34       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-02-27 19:58 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2013-02-27 20:40   ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-02-27 21:42     ` Ben Greear
2013-02-28  8:38       ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-01 21:24 ` David Miller
2013-03-01 22:57   ` Tom Herbert
2013-03-02 17:02   ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04  7:37 ` Cong Wang
2013-03-04  8:19   ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04  8:46     ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-03-04 17:19 ` Stephen Hemminger

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