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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] blk-wbt: add general throttling mechanism
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:52:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51810355-fba4-5939-4365-a2586033133c@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85a891d5-0eec-a051-702f-9aac13e13b03@kernel.dk>

On 11/09/2016 09:07 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 01:40 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>> So for devices with write cache, you will completely drain the device
>>>> before waking anybody waiting to issue new requests. Isn't it too
>>>> strict?
>>>> In particular may_queue() will allow new writers to issue new writes
>>>> once
>>>> we drop below the limit so it can happen that some processes will be
>>>> effectively starved waiting in may_queue?
>>>
>>> It is strict, and perhaps too strict. In testing, it's the only method
>>> that's proven to keep the writeback caching devices in check. It will
>>> round robin the writers, if we have more, which isn't necessarily a bad
>>> thing. Each will get to do a burst of depth writes, then wait for a new
>>> one.
>>
>> Well, I'm more concerned about a situation where one writer does a
>> bursty write and blocks sleeping in may_queue(). Another writer
>> produces a steady flow of write requests so that never causes the
>> write queue to completely drain but that writer also never blocks in
>> may_queue() when it starts queueing after write queue has somewhat
>> drained because it never submits many requests in parallel. In such
>> case the first writer would get starved AFAIU.
>
> I see what you are saying. I can modify the logic to ensure that if we
> do have a waiter, we queue up others behind it. That should get rid of
> that concern.

I added that - if we currently have a waiter, we'll add ourselves to the
back of the waitqueue and wait.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-09 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-01 21:08 [PATCHSET] Throttled buffered writeback Jens Axboe
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 1/8] block: add WRITE_BACKGROUND Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 14:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-02 16:22     ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-05 22:27   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 2/8] writeback: add wbc_to_write_flags() Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 3/8] writeback: mark background writeback as such Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-05 22:26   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 4/8] writeback: track if we're sleeping on progress in balance_dirty_pages() Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 14:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-02 14:59     ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-08 13:02   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 5/8] block: add code to track actual device queue depth Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 14:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-02 15:02     ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-02 16:40       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2016-11-05 22:37   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 6/8] block: add scalable completion tracking of requests Jens Axboe
2016-11-08 13:30   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-08 15:25     ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-09  9:01       ` Jan Kara
2016-11-09 16:09         ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-09 19:52           ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-10 19:38             ` Jan Kara
2016-11-12  5:19               ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 7/8] blk-wbt: add general throttling mechanism Jens Axboe
2016-11-08 13:39   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-08 15:41     ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-09  8:40       ` Jan Kara
2016-11-09 16:07         ` Jens Axboe
2016-11-09 19:52           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2016-11-10 19:36             ` Jan Kara
2016-11-10  0:00           ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH 8/8] block: hook up writeback throttling Jens Axboe
2016-11-08 13:42   ` Jan Kara
2016-11-08 15:16     ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-10-26 20:52 [PATCHSET] block: buffered " Jens Axboe
2016-10-26 20:52 ` [PATCH 7/8] blk-wbt: add general throttling mechanism Jens Axboe

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