From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752268Ab3FNPnp (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:43:45 -0400 Received: from avon.wwwdotorg.org ([70.85.31.133]:51514 "EHLO avon.wwwdotorg.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751335Ab3FNPno (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: <51BB3A2C.608@wwwdotorg.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:43:40 -0600 From: Stephen Warren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Walleij CC: Linus Walleij , Stephen Warren , Kevin Hilman , Tony Lindgren , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , Ulf Hansson Subject: Re: [PATCH] pinctrl: document the pinctrl PM states References: <1370980749-15383-1-git-send-email-linus.walleij@stericsson.com> <51BA1FE7.4000900@wwwdotorg.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 06/13/2013 02:34 PM, Linus Walleij wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Stephen Warren wrote: >> On 06/11/2013 01:59 PM, Linus Walleij wrote: >>> From: Linus Walleij >>> >>> This document snippet tries to be helpful and define the pin >>> PM states and helpers, and how they should be used to create >>> some kind of common ontology around this. >> >> Oops. I haven't been keeping up well. I propose we hold off on this >> patch for a short while until the other thread on this topic is finalized. > > Isn't it better if I split it? > > Most of this doc is about the default/sleep/idle states and > how that relates to runtime PM, and that seems to be > uncontroversial. I would tend to prefer sorting out the issue fully, then documenting it once. This avoids churn. I would consider the complete set of standard pinctrl states as an interface. If we add states, that actually changes the interface even though it might not affect the definition of any individual states. Since this also impacts DT which is supposed to be a stable ABI (or at least evolve in a backwards-compatible fashion), it seems better to get it right once.