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From: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Atsushi Kumagai <kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: "bhe@redhat.com" <bhe@redhat.com>,
	"tom.vaden@hp.com" <tom.vaden@hp.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"ptesarik@suse.cz" <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lisa.mitchell@hp.com" <lisa.mitchell@hp.com>,
	"vgoyal@redhat.com" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"anderson@redhat.com" <anderson@redhat.com>,
	"ebiederm@xmission.com" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"jingbai.ma@hp.com" <jingbai.ma@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] makedumpfile: hugepage filtering for vmcore dump
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 13:56:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52981E75.2050007@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0910DD04CBD6DE4193FCF86B9C00BE971C86DC@BPXM01GP.gisp.nec.co.jp>

(2013/11/29 13:23), Atsushi Kumagai wrote:
> On 2013/11/29 12:24:45, kexec <kexec-bounces@lists.infradead.org> wrote:
>> (2013/11/29 12:02), Atsushi Kumagai wrote:
>>> On 2013/11/28 16:50:21, kexec <kexec-bounces@lists.infradead.org> wrote:
>>>>>> ping, in case you overlooked this...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response, I prioritize the release of v1.5.5 now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your advice, check_cyclic_buffer_overrun() should be fixed
>>>>> as you said. In addition, I'm considering other way to address such case,
>>>>> that is to bring the number of "overflowed pages" to the next cycle and
>>>>> exclude them at the top of __exclude_unnecessary_pages() like below:
>>>>>
>>>>>                   /*
>>>>>                    * The pages which should be excluded still remain.
>>>>>                    */
>>>>>                   if (remainder >= 1) {
>>>>>                           int i;
>>>>>                           unsigned long tmp;
>>>>>                           for (i = 0; i < remainder; ++i) {
>>>>>                                   if (clear_bit_on_2nd_bitmap_for_kernel(pfn + i)) {
>>>>>                                           pfn_user++;
>>>>>                                           tmp++;
>>>>>                                   }
>>>>>                           }
>>>>>                           pfn += tmp;
>>>>>                           remainder -= tmp;
>>>>>                           mem_map += (tmp - 1) * SIZE(page);
>>>>>                           continue;
>>>>>                   }
>>>>>
>>>>> If this way works well, then aligning info->buf_size_cyclic will be
>>>>> unnecessary.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I selected the current implementation of changing cyclic buffer size becuase
>>>> I thought it was simpler than carrying over remaining filtered pages to next cycle
>>>> in that there was no need to add extra code in filtering processing.
>>>>
>>>> I guess the reason why you think this is better now is how to detect maximum order of
>>>> huge page is hard in some way, right?
>>>
>>> The maximum order will be gotten from HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER or HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
>>> so I don't say it's hard. However, the carrying over method doesn't depend on
>>> such kernel symbols, so I think it's robuster.
>>>
>>
>> Then, it's better to remove check_cyclic_buffer_overrun() and rewrite part of free page
>> filtering in __exclude_unnecessary_pages(). Could you do that too?
> 
> Sure, I'll modify it too.
> 

This is a suggestion from different point of view...

In general, data on crash dump can be corrupted. Thus, order contained in a page
descriptor can also be corrupted. For example, if the corrupted value were a huge
number, wide range of pages after buddy page would be filtered falsely.

So, actually we should sanity check data in crash dump before using them for application
level feature. I've picked up order contained in page descriptor, so there would be other
data used in makedumpfile that are not checked.

Unlike diskdump, we no longer need to care about kernel/hardware level data integrity
outside of user-land, but we still care about data its own integrity.

On the other hand, if we do it, we might face some difficulty, for example, hardness of
maintenance or performance bottleneck; it might be the reason why we don't see sanity
check in makedumpfile now.

-- 
Thanks.
HATAYAMA, Daisuke


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-29  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29  3:02 [PATCH 0/3] makedumpfile: hugepage filtering for vmcore dump Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-29  3:21 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-29  4:23   ` Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-29  4:56     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-03  8:05 Atsushi Kumagai
2013-12-03  9:05 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-12-04  6:08   ` Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-05 13:45 Jingbai Ma
2013-11-05 20:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-06  1:47   ` Jingbai Ma
2013-11-06  1:53     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-06  2:21   ` Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-06 14:23     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-07  8:57       ` Jingbai Ma
2013-11-08  5:12         ` Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-08  5:21           ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-08  5:27             ` Jingbai Ma
2013-11-11  9:06               ` Petr Tesarik
2013-11-07  0:54     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-22  7:16       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-28  7:08         ` Atsushi Kumagai
2013-11-28  7:48           ` HATAYAMA Daisuke

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