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From: Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: jakub@redhat.com, ecd@skynet.be, pavel@suse.cz,
	discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: [PATCH] fs/compat.c: rwsem instead of BKL around ioctl32_hash_table
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 07:55:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52r7pjs8pw.fsf@topspin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040903143718.GB4699@wotan.suse.de> (Andi Kleen's message of "Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:37:19 +0200")

    Andi> The BKL couldn't protect again removal of sleeping compat
    Andi> handlers anyways because the BKL is dropped during a
    Andi> schedule, and they all can sleep in user accesses.  During
    Andi> this scheduling window the module could be unloaded if its
    Andi> count was zero. But with the assumption above this cannot
    Andi> happen.

    Andi> So basically the locking there is not to protect against
    Andi> running handlers, just to ensure consistency during the list
    Andi> walking. The list isn't touched anymore after the compat
    Andi> handler runs, so the sleeping in there is no problem.

    Andi> RCU could be used as well to protect the list because there
    Andi> is no sleep involved.

OK, good point.  My logic was wrong when I considered RCU.  But now I
don't understand what you meant by "it cannot work" when you wrote
this in your previous email:

    Andi> If you wanted to fix it properly better make it use RCU -
    Andi> but it cannot work for the case of calling a compat handler.

Based on what you just wrote, it seems to me like RCU would actually
work fine.  Is this wrong?

Thanks,
  Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-03 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-01  7:22 f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01  7:32 ` viro
2004-09-01  7:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01  7:47   ` Lee Revell
2004-09-01  8:19     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-01 15:55   ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:02     ` Chris Wright
2004-09-01 18:12       ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:31         ` viro
2004-09-01 20:54       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]         ` <20040901170800.K1924@build.pdx.osdl.net>
     [not found]           ` <20040901190122.L1924@build.pdx.osdl.net>
2004-09-02  3:46             ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 18:06   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-01  8:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-01 15:40 ` [PATCH] fs/compat.c: rwsem instead of BKL around ioctl32_hash_table Roland Dreier
2004-09-01 23:27   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-02 21:14   ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-02 22:26     ` Roland Dreier
2004-09-03 14:37       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-09-03 14:55         ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2004-09-03 15:02           ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-03  8:00 ` [discuss] f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 10:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 12:14     ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 13:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 14:15         ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 14:25           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 14:29             ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 14:37               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 14:44                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 14:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 15:10                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 18:16                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-08  6:55                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-08 14:28                           ` [patch] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-08 14:38                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-08 14:54                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-08 14:58                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-12 20:05                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-15 13:19                               ` [patch] Re: [discuss] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-07 21:36                       ` Is FIOQSIZE compatible? ( was Re: f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel) Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-08  6:54                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 15:03               ` [discuss] f_ops flag to speed up compatible ioctls in linux kernel Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-07 18:07                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-09-09 13:54                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-12 21:51       ` how to detect a 32 bit process on 64 bit kernel Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-12-12 22:01         ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-12-12 22:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-12-13 19:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-12-13 21:01             ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-12-13 21:32             ` Brian Gerst
2004-12-13 21:37               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2004-12-12 22:37         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-12-12 23:30           ` Bongani Hlope
2004-12-14  7:28         ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-20 14:49   ` [patch] speed up ioctls in linux kernel Michael S. Tsirkin

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