From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752115AbaEOAl6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2014 20:41:58 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:34826 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750926AbaEOAl4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2014 20:41:56 -0400 Message-ID: <53740D1E.6060609@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:41:02 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Lutomirski CC: Davidlohr Bueso , Michael Kerrisk-manpages , Darren Hart , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Jakub Jelinek , "linux-man@vger.kernel.org" , lkml , Davidlohr Bueso , Arnd Bergmann , Steven Rostedt , Peter Zijlstra , Linux API , "Carlos O'Donell" Subject: Re: futex(2) man page update help request References: <537346E5.4050407@gmail.com> <1400100977.3865.30.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> <53740A30.20807@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 05/14/2014 05:35 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> >> More fundamentally, futex(2), like clone(2), are things that can be >> legitimately by user space without automatically breaking all of glibc. > > I'm lost -- I think the missing verb is important :) > ... legitimately *used* by user space ... As in you can use it to implement your own, non-POSIX, synchronization primitives. -hpa