From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] random,x86: Add arch_get_slow_rng_u64
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:39:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C7FC32.7030704@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140717103324.GJ1491@thunk.org>
On 07/17/2014 03:33 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:55:15PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 07/16/2014 05:03 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>
>>> I meant that prandom isn't using rdrand for early seeding.
>>>
>>
>> We should probably fix that.
>
> It wouldn't hurt to explicitly use arch_get_random_long() in prandom,
> but it does use get_random_bytes() in early seed, and for CPU's with
> RDRAND present, we do use it in init_std_data() in
> drivers/char/random.c, so prandom is already getting initialized via
> an RNG (which is effectively a DRBG even if it doesn't pass all of
> NIST's rules) which is derived from RDRAND.
>
I assumed he was referring to before alternatives. Not sure if we use
prandom before that point, though.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-17 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-16 21:45 [PATCH v3 0/5] random,x86,kvm: Add and use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86,kvm: Add MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED and a matching feature bit Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 17:43 ` Andrew Honig
2014-07-17 17:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] random,x86: Add arch_get_slow_rng_u64 Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-16 22:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-17 0:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 4:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-17 10:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 16:39 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-07-17 17:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 17:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-17 17:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 18:42 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-17 19:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-17 12:39 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] random: Seed pools from arch_get_slow_rng_u64 at startup Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] random: Log how many bits we managed to seed with in init_std_data Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-16 21:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] x86,kaslr: Use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED for KASLR if available Andy Lutomirski
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