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From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	axboe@kernel.dk, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:06:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550EF6B2.70506@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550C8C47.5090002@redhat.com>

On 03/20/2015 11:08 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 03/20/2015 04:31 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
<>
>> There's a lot of code out there that relies on struct page being PAGE_SIZE
>> bytes.  I'm cool with replacing 'struct page' with 'struct superpage'
>> [1] in the biovec and auditing all of the code which touches it ... but
>> that's going to be a lot of code!  I'm not sure it's less code than
>> going directly to 'just do I/O on PFNs'.
> 
> Totally agreed here. I see absolutely no advantage to teaching the
> IO layer about a "struct superpage" when it could operate on PFNs
> just as easily.
> 

Or teaching 'struct page' to be variable length, This is already so at
bio and sg level so you fixed nothing.

Moving to pfn's only means that all this unnamed code above that
"relies on struct page being PAGE_SIZE" is now not allowed to
interfaced with bio and sg list. Which in current code and in Dan's patches
means two tons of BUG_ONS and return -ENOTSUPP . For all these
subsystems below the bio and sglist that operate on page_structs

Say the "relies on struct page being PAGE_SIZE" is such an hard
work, which is not at all at the bio and sg-list level, will
it not be worth while fixing this instead of alienating the all
Kernel from the IO subsystem.

But I believe it is the much much smaller change? Specially considering
Networking, RDMA shared memory ...

Cheers
Boaz


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-22 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 20:25 [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] block: add helpers for accessing a bio_vec page Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] block: convert bio_vec.bv_page to bv_pfn Dan Williams
2015-03-16 23:05   ` Al Viro
2015-03-17 13:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-17 15:53       ` Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] dma-mapping: allow archs to optionally specify a ->map_pfn() operation Dan Williams
2015-03-18 11:21   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] scatterlist: use sg_phys() Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] scatterlist: support "page-less" (__pfn_t only) entries Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] x86: support dma_map_pfn() Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] block: base support for pfn i/o Dan Williams
2015-03-18 10:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-18 13:06   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-18 14:38     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 15:56       ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-22 11:53         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-18 15:35   ` Dan Williams
2015-03-18 20:26 ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-19 13:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-19 15:54     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-19 19:59       ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-19 20:59         ` Dan Williams
2015-03-22 17:22           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 17:32         ` Wols Lists
2015-03-22 10:30         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-19 18:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-19 19:31       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-22 16:46       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 16:21     ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-20 20:31       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-20 21:08         ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-22 17:06           ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2015-03-22 17:22             ` Dan Williams
2015-03-22 17:39               ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 21:17         ` Wols Lists
2015-03-22 16:24         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-22 15:51       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-23 15:19         ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-23 19:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-24  9:41           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-24 16:57             ` Rik van Riel

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