From: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] nohz: make nohz_full imply isolcpus
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:12:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55256F92.1010606@ezchip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150408172746.GK5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 04/08/2015 01:27 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 11:21:56AM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
>> Apparently the body of the commit message isn't as clear as it might be :-)
>>
>> It does say the same thing, though, basically that if nohz_full DOESN'T
>> imply isolcpus, that's a bad thing. I'm happy to reword the text to avoid
>> the double negative and say:
>>
>> nohz_full is only useful with isolcpus also set, since otherwise the
>> scheduler has to run periodically to try to determine whether to steal
>> work from other cores.
> But you're doing the reverse! You're setting nohz_full for isolcpus, not
> limiting the nohz_full mask to isolcpus.
Ah, I see. Yes, that's right. The idea is that if you are saying
"nohz_full=1-15" on the command line, you would like that to
imply "isolcpus=1-15" as well, without having to actually say so
explicitly. If we instead limit nohz_full based on isolcpus, it's not
clear that it's actually worth making any change in this area.
I still maintain that the text has always correctly (if perhaps
confusingly) said what it is that the code was doing; where the
text says "x implies y", that means "x being set forces y to be set".
But I'm respinning it anyway for Frederic so I will avoid using the
word "imply" altogether to make this clearer.
The larger question is whether you agree with the proposed semantics.
--
Chris Metcalf, EZChip Semiconductor
http://www.ezchip.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-08 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-03 16:24 [PATCH 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_set_cpus() API cmetcalf
2015-04-03 16:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] nohz: make nohz_full imply isolcpus cmetcalf
2015-04-03 17:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-03 19:20 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-04 14:10 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-04 17:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-05 5:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-06 17:15 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-06 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_clear_cpus() and _set_cpus() APIs cmetcalf
2015-04-06 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] nohz: make nohz_full imply isolcpus cmetcalf
2015-04-07 22:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-08 14:04 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-08 15:21 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 17:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_clear_cpus() and _set_cpus() APIs cmetcalf
2015-04-08 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set cmetcalf
2015-04-08 17:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] nohz: make nohz_full imply isolcpus Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-08 18:12 ` Chris Metcalf [this message]
2015-04-09 8:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-09 12:02 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 12:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-09 16:59 ` [PATCH v5] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-10 1:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-10 15:33 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 15:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-09 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_cpumask_or() and _andnot() APIs Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 17:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 17:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_cpumask_or() and _andnot() APIs Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-09 17:24 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 17:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-09 18:01 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() and _remove_cpus_from() APIs Chris Metcalf
2015-04-09 18:01 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 1:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-10 20:53 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() and _remove_cpus_from() APIs Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 20:53 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 0:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-14 15:17 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() API Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 15:17 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] nohz: set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 15:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-14 16:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 0:33 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() and _remove_cpus_from() APIs Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-14 0:49 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 15:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-10 1:34 ` [PATCH v6 " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-10 15:31 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-06 18:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] nohz: add tick_nohz_full_clear_cpus() and _set_cpus() APIs Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-06 19:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-07 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-03 18:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] nohz: make nohz_full imply isolcpus Mike Galbraith
2015-04-03 19:21 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-04 2:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-04 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-06 19:28 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-07 3:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-06 16:04 [GIT PULL] nohz: A few improvements v4 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-06 16:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] context_tracking: Protect against recursion Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-07 9:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 11:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-07 11:31 ` [tip:timers/nohz] " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-06 16:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] context_tracking: Inherit TIF_NOHZ through forks instead of context switches Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-07 11:31 ` [tip:timers/nohz] " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-06 16:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] nohz: Add tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() API Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-07 11:31 ` [tip:timers/nohz] " tip-bot for Chris Metcalf
2015-05-06 16:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] nohz: Set isolcpus when nohz_full is set Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-07 11:32 ` [tip:timers/nohz] " tip-bot for Chris Metcalf
2015-05-16 19:39 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Sasha Levin
2015-05-17 5:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-18 2:17 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-18 3:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-18 14:07 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-18 14:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-18 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-19 2:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-06-12 19:12 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-20 20:38 ` Afzal Mohammed
2015-05-20 21:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 12:12 ` Afzal Mohammed
2015-05-21 12:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 13:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-21 13:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 13:29 ` Afzal Mohammed
2015-05-21 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 14:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-21 18:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-22 14:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-22 15:20 ` Mike Galbraith
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