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From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] allow mapping page-less memremaped areas into KVA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:23:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55CC9A5A.1020209@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gwFD5F=k_qQyf68z74Opzf1t4DMqY+A9D2w_Fwsbzvew@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/13/2015 03:57 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
<>
> This is explicitly addressed in the changelog, repeated here:
> 
>> The __pfn_t to resource lookup is indeed inefficient walking of a linked list,
>> but there are two mitigating factors:
>>
>> 1/ The number of persistent memory ranges is bounded by the number of
>>    DIMMs which is on the order of 10s of DIMMs, not hundreds.
>>

You do not get where I'm comming from. It used to be a [ptr - ONE_BASE + OTHER_BASE]
(In 64 bit) it is now a call and a loop and a search. how ever you will look at
it is *not* the instantaneous address translation it is now.

I have memory I want memory speeds. You keep thinking HD speeds, where what ever
you do will not matter.

>> 2/ The lookup yields the entire range, if it becomes inefficient to do a
>>    kmap_atomic_pfn_t() a PAGE_SIZE at a time the caller can take
>>    advantage of the fact that the lookup can be amortized for all kmap
>>    operations it needs to perform in a given range.
> 

What "given range" how can a bdev assume that the all sg-list belongs to the
same "range". In fact our code does multple-pmem devices for a long time.
What about say md-of-pmems for example, or btrfs

> DAX as is is races against pmem unbind.   A synchronization cost must
> be paid somewhere to make sure the memremap() mapping is still valid.

Sorry for being so slow, is what I asked. what is exactly "pmem unbind" ?

Currently in my 4.1 Kernel the ioremap is done on modprobe time and
released modprobe --remove time. the --remove can not happen with a mounted
FS dax or not. So what is exactly "pmem unbind". And if there is a new knob
then make it refuse with a raised refcount.

Cheers
Boaz



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-13  3:00 [PATCH v5 0/5] introduce __pfn_t for unmapped pfn I/O and DAX lifetime Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:01 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] mm: move __phys_to_pfn and __pfn_to_phys to asm/generic/memory_model.h Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:01 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] allow mapping page-less memremaped areas into KVA Dan Williams
2015-08-13  5:58   ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 12:57     ` Dan Williams
2015-08-13 13:23       ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2015-08-13 14:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13 15:01           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 14:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13 14:48       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 15:29         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 17:37         ` Dave Hansen
2015-08-13 17:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-08-13 18:15     ` Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:01 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] dax: drop size parameter to ->direct_access() Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:01 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] dax: fix mapping lifetime handling, convert to __pfn_t + kmap_atomic_pfn_t() Dan Williams
2015-08-13  6:26   ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 15:21     ` Dan Williams
2015-08-13 16:34       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-08-13 18:51         ` Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:01 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] scatterlist: convert to __pfn_t Dan Williams

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