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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"'Haiyang Zhang'" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC] net: increase LL_MAX_HEADER for Hyper-V
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:26:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F9A62D.1030106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CB9800B@AcuExch.aculab.com>

On 09/16/2015 09:25 AM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Haiyang Zhang
>> Sent: 16 September 2015 17:09
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vitaly Kuznetsov [mailto:vkuznets@redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:50 AM
>>> To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
>>> Cc: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
>>> KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>; Haiyang Zhang
>>> <haiyangz@microsoft.com>; Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>>> Subject: [PATCH net-next RFC] net: increase LL_MAX_HEADER for Hyper-V
>>>
>>> Commit b08cc79155fc26d0d112b1470d1ece5034651a4b ("hv_netvsc: Eliminate
>>>   memory allocation in the packet send path") introduced skb headroom
>>> request for Hyper-V netvsc driver:
>>>
>>>         max_needed_headroom = sizeof(struct hv_netvsc_packet) +
>>>                                 sizeof(struct rndis_message) +
>>>                                 NDIS_VLAN_PPI_SIZE + NDIS_CSUM_PPI_SIZE +
>>>                                 NDIS_LSO_PPI_SIZE + NDIS_HASH_PPI_SIZE;
>>>         ...
>>>         net->needed_headroom = max_needed_headroom;
>>>
>>> max_needed_headroom is 220 bytes, it significantly exceeds the
>>> LL_MAX_HEADER setting. This causes each skb to be cloned on send path,
>>> e.g. for IPv4 case we fall into the following clause
>>> (ip_finish_output2()):
>>>
>>> if (unlikely(skb_headroom(skb) < hh_len && dev->header_ops)) {
>>>      ...
>>>      skb2 = skb_realloc_headroom(skb, LL_RESERVED_SPACE(dev));
>>>      ...
>>> }
>>>
>>> leading to a significant performance regression. Increase LL_MAX_HEADER
>>> to make it suitable for netvsc, make it 224 to be 16-aligned.
>>> Alternatively we could (partially) revert the commit which introduced
>>> skb
>>> headroom request restoring manual memory allocation on transmit path.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>   include/linux/netdevice.h | 4 +++-
>>>   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/netdevice.h b/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> index 88a0069..7233790 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> @@ -132,7 +132,9 @@ static inline bool dev_xmit_complete(int rc)
>>>    *	used.
>>>    */
>>>
>>> -#if defined(CONFIG_WLAN) || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_AX25)
>>> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HYPERV_NET)
>>> +# define LL_MAX_HEADER 224
>>> +#elif defined(CONFIG_WLAN) || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_AX25)
>>>   # if defined(CONFIG_MAC80211_MESH)
>>>   #  define LL_MAX_HEADER 128
>>>   # else
>> Thanks for the patch.
>> To avoid we forget to update that 224 number when we add more things
>> into netvsc header, I suggest that we define a macro in netdevice.h such
>> as:
>> #define HVNETVSC_MAX_HEADER 224
>> #define LL_MAX_HEADER HVNETVSC_MAX_HEADER
>>
>> And, put a note in netvsc code saying the header reservation shouldn't
>> exceed HVNETVSC_MAX_HEADER, or you need to update HVNETVSC_MAX_HEADER.
> Am I right in thinking this is adding an extra 96 unused bytes to the front
> of almost all skb just so that hyper-v can make its link level header
> contiguous with whatever follows (IP header ?).
>
> Doesn't sound ideal.

Actually it will probably add closer to 128 unused bytes per frame since 
an skb allocation is rounded off to the nearest cache line in terms of size.

Is there a reason why this buffer info and descriptor like thing even 
needs to be in the packet header?  From what I can tell it was being 
allocated separately before.  Why not just maintain a ring of them if 
you need to keep them around and want to avoid having to reallocate them 
for the next transmit?  Also I don't know if the layout  matters but it 
probably wouldn't hurt to go through with pahole and clean the 
hv_netvsc_packet structure up.  You could probably save yourself 
something like 20+ bytes just doing that.

- Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-16 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 15:50 [PATCH net-next RFC] net: increase LL_MAX_HEADER for Hyper-V Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-09-16 16:08 ` Haiyang Zhang
2015-09-16 16:25   ` David Laight
2015-09-16 17:26     ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2015-09-16 17:55     ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-16 21:38       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-09-16 22:57         ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-16 23:48           ` Alexander Duyck
2015-09-16 23:58             ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-17  8:38           ` David Laight
2015-09-17 15:14             ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-17 18:52               ` David Miller
2015-09-17 19:52                 ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-17 20:10                   ` David Miller
2015-09-17 21:16                     ` KY Srinivasan
2015-09-16 17:59     ` David Miller
2015-09-17  9:03       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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